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The US coordinated the disinformation campaign, and has been for a very long time.
Russia and China, on the other hand? Entirely straightforward and transparent in their reporting. No disinformation campaigns there, no sir.
i think russia takes the #1 in the aggressive propaganda platforms out there, they devote significant resources to do it too. hence why you see the sudden rise of right wing governments all over the world, the porn bans, age verfication.
One of the lines I see repeated with every business cycle is "China is lying about their economic data". Like, quarter after quarter, year after year, decade after decade.
At some point, you have to engage in a bit of meta-criticism. Why do you believe an enemy nation-state is secretly failing when only the lay residents of the rival power seem to be aware of it? What is your crystal ball and how is it showing information that's more reliable than the Goldman Sachs trading desk or the IMF analytics department?
So much of the time it seems like Yeomni Park is the source for every American's understanding of the outside world. And anyone who asserts a contrary view must be a shill, a bot, or a political extremist.
Contrary view isn't purely praise and refused to accept the weakness of the country, which is the perspective you and the tankie definitely possessed. We're just stating the obvious and calling a shill shill.
I occasionally shit on china while also praise some of their aspect, i do it the same way for all the country.
I don't think clickbait youtube videos are a fair measure of American media reporting on China. Youtube is largely random users shouting into the void. They're going to frequently exaggerate or otherwise spread misinformation on any subject for attention or even simple ignorance. There's little to suggest it's controlled propaganda considering you'll likely find much more conspiracy critical of the American government than China's.
Since you seem to have a view different than most people here, do you trust China's reporting on itself more than that of reputable western media? If so, why?
Did you notice that the US was not involved in this conversation at all until @Subdivide6857@midwest.social brought it up? That the US is in fact entirely irrelevant to this discussion of blatant censorship and partisanship on Lemmy.ml?
This is a perfectly clear and obvious example of the whataboutism game that tankies love to play. This user should only be ridiculed for their transparent attempts at distraction and deflection. Otherwise, do not engage.
You bet, bud. The US is the reason for the disinformation campaign. The US is always involved in the imperialist game. That’s not whataboutism. You have these feelings due to the US. It’s not even difficult to sift through the shit. You’re lazy.
Spicy take! Let's see the damning evidence, this'll be tasty!
Yes, that's the spicy take, repeated.
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If you happen to be on a troll farm in Russia, you're in grave danger of being sent to the front, if you can't pull your propaganda game together.
You are awful at this.
The U.S is absolutely involved in imperialism. That shouldn't be a spicy take whatsoever.
and THeREfORe, tankies are good!
I've got news for you sunshine. As horrific and imperialist as the US is, you have zero capacity to benefit from the contrast effect.
You don't get it. If lemmy.ml, the clowns who run it, and their flying monkeys are the de facto voice of your cause on social media, you're fucked.
Watch the world-famous mental gymnast as they attempt to perform a complete mid-air double-backflip while walking the titerope of prescribed ideology!
Wonder in amazement as they spiral ever downward into the pit of whataboutism!
See them engage in direct ad hominem attacks!
Laugh at their foibles as they recite CCP propaganda for your entertainment!
As not an american (there are quite a few of us) I find it extra funny with new layers of silly. Like I am somehow supposed to lose if america is mocked? Like if your not down with the CCP your waving a small american flag?
Making the whataboutisum comment attacking the usa is great as well since it demonstrates a form of american exceptionalism that they think everyone also believes in. And if they want to refute that they will have to defend america....
Gold.
more significant damage was done by russian disinformation/misinformation, through various media and people and grifters, get out of your high horse.
Post-Soviet Russia is the fruit of the US labor. They’re no longer commies.
And it is funny that tankies don't seem to realise that.
This is Russian Disinformation. And anything that suggests otherwise is also Russian Disinformation. And if you argue with me you're a Russian Bot. And don't even think about downvoting. You'll only make me wave my American Flag harder while singing the national anthem louder.
A world without whataboutism would certainly be a world where we heard less from tankies like you.