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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by Soyweiser@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

Original title 'What we talk about when we talk about risk'. article explains medical risk and why the polygenic embryo selection people think about it the wrong way. Includes a mention of one of our Scotts (you know the one). Non archived link: https://theinfinitesimal.substack.com/p/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about

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[-] diz@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Embryo selection may just be the eugenicist's equivalent of greenwashing.

Eugenicists doing IVF is kind of funny, since it is a procedure that circumvents natural selection quite a bit, especially for the guys. It's what, something like billion to one for the sperm?

If they're doing IVF, being into eugenics, they need someone to tell them that they aren't "worsening the species", and the embryo selection provides just that.

edit: The worse part would be if people who don't need IVF start doing IVF with embryo selection, expecting some sort of benefit for the offspring. With American tendency to sell people unnecessary treatments and procedures, I can totally see that happening.

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

old timey eugenicists were all about preventing "unsuitable" people from having kids, thereby circumventing natural selection. It's not as if they didn't purposefully misunderstand the phrase "survival of the fittest"

[-] diz@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well yeah but the new age ones overthink everything. Edit: I suspect you could probably find one of them spelling it out.

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