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[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 113 points 2 days ago

So where are all those second amendment loving NRA patriots that believe that they need military grade firearms to protect their freedom from the tyranny of the government?

Because if you're waiting for the opportune moment, this is it.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 103 points 2 days ago

Submitting job applications to ICE.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 60 points 2 days ago

All these years we've been told that the reason it's necessary to let innocent children die in mass shootings is just in case the need to overthrow a tyrannical government arises. Guess they died for nothing

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

The right never fucking meant it. They wanted the stockpiles as a way of virtue signaling to each other and a way of signaling to out-groups (POC, liberals, uppity women, LGBTQ+) the not-so-veiled threat of that stockpile.

Also, they wanted that stockpile so that when some shitty fascist government - like this one - gives them the go-ahead to join up with death squads, that's they already have the arsenal for it.

All that freedom and liberty mumbo-jumbo - just so much bullshit.

[-] tankfox@midwest.social 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You know what fully ended school shootings? The pandemic lockdown. We know what causes school shootings; schools are an underfunded nightmare pressure cooker half a step away from the prison system. We know how to fix it, change the system. Since we rushed back to the system that causes the shootings as quickly as we could, I guess you could absolutely say they died for nothing and will continue to die for nothing, probably until there are no more humans left to die for nothing.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

Turns out the solution was to ban schools. I'm surprised republicans aren't using this to try to ban school altogether.

I've often wondered how many people planned mass shootings that they didn't go through with because of the pandemic.

[-] tankfox@midwest.social 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Hey, you know what? It worked. Kids stopped being shot. Isn't that the goal? Any means necessary? It was effective. Extremely small class sizes, distributed learning, it works and people don't die anymore.

Instead of making any positive changes the school system just said, 'glad that's over, get back to the old system immediately you little scamps!' Gotta save money after all!

There is a solution, y'all don't like it. Gun owners know there's another solution now, one that doesn't make them give up their investment to solve a problem they will never be involved in.

I will not be affected by whining about this problem when a proven alternative solution exists. Especially since the proven effective solution only burdens the actual people involved in the actual problem; all of us terrible parents and all of our horrible little children.

[-] prole 2 points 1 day ago

We know what causes school shootings; schools are an underfunded nightmare pressure cooker half a step away from the prison system.

School shootings are caused by widespread access to firearms.

There's a reason why it's only a major trend in the US.

[-] tankfox@midwest.social 1 points 3 hours ago

That's so pithy and reductive! And it suits your goals by only burdening gun owners and nobody else! And is false and wrong besides as whether you like it or not canada and europe have both firearms and better schools.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The second amendment loving NRA patriots are furiously masturbating to the fascist takeover of the federal government. Do not for one second believe that they believe in the second amendment to overthrow a Republican president. They absolutely would if a Democrat was president.

The biggest issue gun-owning liberals have is that they lack organization whereas the conservatives have it in spades. We desperately need progressives to begin banding together and laying out a plan on what happens when Trump's troops march toward Maryland, a liberal state.

We are quickly reaching the point where we need people who are not only willing to fight for our country, but are willing to die for it as well. I suspect many of us here are willing to do the former, but not many of us are willing to do the latter.

[-] imTIREDnhungryboss@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

I'm ready for the next life death doesn't scare me, I just can't start it or anything else other than comments, made promises

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

and here we are,

you’re validating the fears of the very people you dismissed, in the most backward ‘you might have been right about this’ I’ve ever seen, after decades of making gun ownership a partisan issue.

and then you ask me why haven’t i sacrificed my life to go on a murder spree… to kill your enemies… this is exactly what you are asking.

i don’t see where to join the Northwest Secessionist Forces, or any real opposition group to tyranny right now. what? is schumer going to send another nastygram?

i highly recommend that if you are or know a disabled person, someone on the LBGTQ+ spectrum, or a minority, to get armed and get proficient in its use.

[-] prole 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

and then you ask me why haven’t i sacrificed my life to go on a murder spree… to kill your enemies… this is exactly what you are asking.

No, it would be the people that you claim to be your enemies, but when push comes to shove, you're just full of shit.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

You keep disarming yourself. The right has all the firearms. Who is driving the fascist? Is it the left? No... it's the right wing....stop trying to disarm yourself, you make no fucking sense.

[-] xyzzy@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

There are lots and lots of lefties with guns who know how to use them. Many of them live in the Pacific Northwest, though certainly not all of them.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What? The PNW has some of the strictest gun control laws in the US.

What are these lefties armed with? Rocks?

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

In the PNW you can buy AR-15s, shotguns, rifles, semi-auto pistols, and more.

I think you're confusing PNW with New York or some other location with "strict gun control", which really just means that you travel to another state to purchase firearms anyway.

Firearm sales have tripled since 2000, that's our bread and butter.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

https://www.atg.wa.gov/firearms

https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/state/washington/

https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/state/oregon/

What? You got AWB and high cap mag bans...and 3 day waiting periods...you do have some of the strictest gun control on the books.

Idaho is the only place that has very little gun laws, but the majority of the left doesn't live there.

https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/state/idaho/

Idaho has voted red for decades now, so please don't tell me there are tons of lefties there...

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, I don't think being able to buy an AR-15 with a 3-day wait is "strict gun control", but you can believe that if you'd like.

It's, like, the exact opposite of strict gun control. That's a gun delay, oh no

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yea...so you ignored everything I posted. We weren't talking about a single law. We were comparing the rest of the states with the PNW. Having a waiting period is still gun control and just for the record...does absolutely fuck all to curb gun violence.

[-] jabeez@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

Yes, because stricter gun laws than most=cannot buy guns at all only rocks.

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

are you arguing that stricter gun laws are not a barrier to arming oneself?

[-] jabeez@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago

You could argue any and all gun laws are a "barrier" to arming oneself, but no, none of them are in any way whatsoever insurmountable, and amount to "barriers" you can simply step over. You claiming the PNW is unarmed and people there can't buy guns?

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

i am claiming what i said. the poster you commented to was being obviously hyperbolic. i don’t know what the gun laws are around pnw. but around here they vary wildly depending on where i go. the point of them was never to be insurmountable, but to be difficult enough to arm the correct people and to dissuade ownership for another.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

No we're claiming that lefties being "lots of them armed" in the PNW is bullshit.

[-] xyzzy@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Spend a moment to reflect on the fact that you're confidently incorrect in response to someone who lives here and has spent a considerable amount of time in all corners of the region.

Aside from NYC and DC, the "strictest gun laws in the country" are still some of the loosest gun laws in the world. Even at an FFL dealer it's basically an instant background check and a three-day waiting period. Not to mention all the gun shows, unless you think someplace like Eugene, OR is a secret MAGA bastion—in-between all the Occupy, BLM, and pro-Palestinian protests, I mean.

In Seattle my coworkers were some of the most heavily-armed coworkers I've ever had in any part of the country. They all had small armories. My old boss cast his own bullets from lead ingots. My neighbor in Oregon could probably supply the entire neighborhood if needed, although of course I'd be set. My leftist friend I just had lunch with the other day was just telling me about his collection of handguns and rifles. I guess the neighbor who runs a daycare nearby probably doesn't have any, though. And no, I don't live in the boonies.

But by all means, feel free to underestimate us.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Reusing this from my other comment...you may think you are, and you might be the most armed of the left in the states, but you still have enough lefties who vote for some of the strictest gun laws in the country.

https://www.atg.wa.gov/firearms

https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/state/washington/

https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/state/oregon/

What? You got AWB and high cap mag bans...and 3 day waiting periods...you do have some of the strictest gun control on the books.

Idaho is the only place that has very little gun laws, but the majority of the left doesn't live there.

https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/state/idaho/

Idaho has voted red for decades now, so please don't tell me there are tons of lefties there...

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Citation needed? Your imagination does not dictate reality... where did you hear this? Seriously

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-ownership-by-state

It's not rocket science. Yes PNW is more left but it's still no where near the south or the rest of the red states.

Please provide me info that shows the left is even remotely armed like the right wing in this country. You can downvote all you want but it doesn't magically make those on the left armed.

[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

And there it is.

Half agree with you, the other half still believe in a sane world where laws matter and mean something.

Man.

I’ll never own weapons myself. I have one pistol that probably can’t even fire a shot. It’s old, it’s cheap, it’s half broken.

Even if it could, I don’t believe in violence, and even if I did I’m not built for it.

Still, I have studied some history. I know that it is necessary at times. It won’t ever be me though. I couldn’t ever harm another human being.

If that means I lose, fuck it. Life is short anyway.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They are on their knees serving a elitist pedophile

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