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[-] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 73 points 4 days ago

The problem isn't AI. The problem is Capitalism.

The problem is always Capitalism.

AI, Climate Change, rising fascism, all our problems are because of capitalism.

[-] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 8 points 4 days ago

Wrong.
The problem are humans, the same things that happen under capitalism can (and would) happen under any other system because humans are the ones who make these things happen or allow them to happen.

[-] zeca@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago

Problems would exist in any system, but not the same problems. Each system has its set of problems and challenges. Just look at history, problems change. Of course you can find analogies between problems, but their nature changes with our systems. Hunger, child mortality, pollution, having no free time, war, censorship, mass surveilence,... these are not constant through history. They happen more or less depending on the social systems in place, which vary constantly.

[-] Eldritch@piefed.world 9 points 4 days ago

While you aren't wrong about human nature. I'd say you're wrong about systems. How would the same thing happen under an anarchist system? Or under an actual communist (not Marxist-Leninist) system? Which account for human nature and focus to use it against itself.

[-] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 7 points 4 days ago

It will happen regardless because we are not machines, we don't follow theory, laws, instructions or whatever a system tells us to perfectly and without little changes here and there.

[-] pebbles@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

I think you are underestimating how adaptable humans are. We absolutely conform to the systems that govern us, and they are NOT equally likely to produce bad outcomes.

[-] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Every system eventually ends with someone corrupted with power and greed wanting more. Putin and his oligrachs, Trump and his oligarchs... Xi isn't great, but at least I haven't heard news about the Uyghurs situation for a couple of years now. Hope things are better there nowadays and people aren't going missing anymore just for speaking out against their government.

[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Time doesn't end with corrupt power, those are just things that happen. Bad shit always happens, it's the Why, How Often and How We Fix It that are more indicative of success. Every machine breaks down eventually.

[-] pebbles@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

I mean you'd have to be pretty smart to make the perfect system. Things failing isn't proof that things can't be better.

[-] Eldritch@piefed.world 3 points 4 days ago

I see, so you don't understand. Or simply refuse to engage with what was asked.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago

Can, would... and did. The list of environmental disasters in the Soviet is long and intense.

[-] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Rather, our problem is that we live in a world where the strongest will survive, and the strongest does not mean the smart... So alas we will always be in complete shit until we disappear.

[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The fittest survive. The problem is creating systems where the best fit are people who lack empathy and and a moral code.

A better solution would be selecting world leaders from the population at random.

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