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[-] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 14 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Yeah but what's their average salary? Still an amazing career if you are good at it. (Assuming AI doesn't get 10x better and take all of our jobs.)

It's actually in the table - median wage mid career:

  • Art history: $71k
  • Biology: $80k
  • Compsci: $115k
[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 15 hours ago

Mid career is more about people who graduated 20 years ago.

[-] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 2 points 9 hours ago

It has early career too - the difference there is even bigger.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah. I mean the biology doubles but it sorta has to for anyone to make it to mid career and still be in the career. I know for a fact biology and chemistry majors were leaving the field a bit after graduation in the late 90's. By and large they got certs and went to tech or MBA's and went into management.

[-] SolacefromSilence@fedia.io 10 points 16 hours ago

Wages are sticky in the short term. We'd want to see what downward pressure exists on offers to new grads.

Best of luck to those stuck right now

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 8 points 15 hours ago

How are you supposed to get good at it if you can't get hired? Work for free for a while?

[-] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 1 points 8 hours ago

I dunno, I learnt as a hobby. I think most programmers I know did too.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 hours ago

I was going to say something about self teaching or volunteering (eg: working on open source stuff for free), but like giving your labor away for free kind of sucks. Do we expect other fields to do that? Are accountants just doing finance for free?

Also you won't learn important stuff like how to work in a professional context. I've met hobby programmers that don't know how to work on a team.

You're not entirely wrong but I don't think it's a perfect solution

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 7 hours ago

You should then average the salary over the time you were paid 0 because you were learning on your own, too

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