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Ew, ai.
dAIry. Conspiracy confirmed.
Ew, content promoting ~~animal rape~~ dairy.
People would probably be more supportive of your cause if you didn't exaggerate in the most extreme and incorrect ways
Cows produce more milk if they're forcibly impregnated every year. Supporting cow milk is supporting rape, this is a fact.
The word you're looking for is "artificial insemination" and it does not equate to rape. This is a fact.
Alright then c'mon over buddy I'll get the turkey baster ready
I'm not even vegan but wtf is this logic
False equivalency; I am not a cow.
My logic is sound and self consistent while yours depends on fallacies.
...can animals not be raped?
So putting semen up a vagina without consent isn't rape?
The concept of consent does not apply for livestock in this context. And yes, in the context of artificially inseminating livestock, that is correct.
So you are saying rape doesn't exist in a slavery context.
In what context? Animals? Are you saying a guy sticking his dick in his pet dog is a situation without any consent problems?
Is "sticking your dick in a pet dog" the same as artificially inseminating livestock? No, it's obviously not even close to the same thing? Then, obviously, no.
It's a foreign object in the vagina used to inject semen. It's exactly the same. An artificial insemination device is an artificial penis. It's designed to do what a penis does.
You really think you're going to win an argument by attempting to claim that fucking a dog is "exactly the same" as what dairy farmers do when they artificially inseminate cattle? False equivalency. What's it mean when your beliefs depend on fallacies? 🤔
But you didn't explain why it's a false equivalence, because you don't have any good reasons
The concept of human rights does not apply for when I shove a boot up your ass after you're done licking the dairy industry's.
Nope, it still applies because I'm a human.
Ok buddy, explain to me the difference between artificial insemination and rape.
I'll wait
I am sure laws vary by country, but going with laws here..
One is done with a glorified Turkey baster to livestock. The other with your penis to a woman.
Are we seriously comparing women to livestock here? But even AI to a human woman would be sexual assault, not rape.
Both are non-consensual penetrations of animal vaginas. The actors involved need not be the same species, as in bestiality, and the thing used to penetrate need not be a body part. How would you like it if the women loved ones in your life were vaginally penetrated with Turkey basters instead of penises? Makes no difference because the deed is the same: concent is violated and in a sexual (read: vaginal body parts = sexual body parts) manner.
I'm not comparing women to livestock in the slightest, you're putting words in my mouth. I'm saying that actions of rape DONE TO BOTH women and animals bear exact similarity. There is no difference between artificial insemination without consent of women as for animals, and there is no difference between vaginal intercourse without consent of animals as for women. Both of these instances constitute rape.
And artificial insemination without consent to a women is absolutely rape. It consists of vaginal penetration without consent. That is literally the definition.
Look, I don't disagree with your point necessarily, but you're not winning over literally anyone in this thread. It's just not happening.
Nobody ever has been convinced that dairy is rape and meat is murder by some Lemmy user saying "dairy is rape" and following up with "because it is".
Most obviously, your primary argument is consequentialism, which many people just don't see as a valid form of ethics. Many people subscribe to deontology instead, and so they don't see it as rape because they are not obtaining sexual gratification from artificial insemination or drinking milk.
Adding "This is a fact" doesn't make it a fact, sadly. Unless you're in the US.
yeah, we just let the bull do his thing and the family dairy worked fine until we sold it in the 90s. where you getting your info because I lived it?
https://extension.umn.edu/dairy-milking-cows/artificial-insemination-cattle
Care to point out where I exaggerated “in the most extreme and incorrect ways?”
They have got a point. You know what they mean. People will ignore you if you push your narrative too far, in their opinion
Because I said “animal rape?” How dare I state blatantly where the beloved dairy products come from, the horror!
So you do know what the incorrect and absurd exaggeration was, after all.
Apparently it doesn't bother you that you make veganism look bad since you chose to be sarcastic like that. You're actively preventing veganism
It could be a femboy milk pipe, you don’t know.
From a consenting fembAI.