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[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The word you're looking for is "artificial insemination" and it does not equate to rape. This is a fact.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 19 points 3 weeks ago

Alright then c'mon over buddy I'll get the turkey baster ready

I'm not even vegan but wtf is this logic

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

False equivalency; I am not a cow.

My logic is sound and self consistent while yours depends on fallacies.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 15 points 3 weeks ago
[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Of course they can, however artificially inseminating livestock is not rape. Nuance exists.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

There is no nuance.

Rape means no consent was granted. We need communication to receive consent. We cannot communicate with cows.

You're a shill for the dairy industry. You drink rape milk

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

doors dont consent for you to jam your keys in them.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

Does the door bleed when you do that? Does it cry out in fear of rape, or of sadness of losing its child right after birth?

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[-] Genius@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago

So putting semen up a vagina without consent isn't rape?

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So putting semen up a vagina ~~without consent~~ isn’t rape?

The concept of consent does not apply for livestock in this context. And yes, in the context of artificially inseminating livestock, that is correct.

[-] Genius@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

In what context? Animals? Are you saying a guy sticking his dick in his pet dog is a situation without any consent problems?

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Is "sticking your dick in a pet dog" the same as artificially inseminating livestock? No, it's obviously not even close to the same thing? Then, obviously, no.

[-] Genius@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

It's a foreign object in the vagina used to inject semen. It's exactly the same. An artificial insemination device is an artificial penis. It's designed to do what a penis does.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

You really think you're going to win an argument by attempting to claim that fucking a dog is "exactly the same" as what dairy farmers do when they artificially inseminate cattle? False equivalency. What's it mean when your beliefs depend on fallacies? 🤔

[-] Genius@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

But you didn't explain why it's a false equivalence, because you don't have any good reasons

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[-] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 weeks ago

So you are saying rape doesn't exist in a slavery context.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

No, slavery does not apply to livestock.

[-] Genius@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

Are you a troll? Are you giving bad carnist arguments on purpose to help the vegan cause?

Great job!

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Genius@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

Genius S+ tier strat

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

No you’re an full fledged animal abuser and rapist supporter.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

you have no evidence for such a claim

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

The concept of consent does not apply for livestock in this context.

The concept of human rights does not apply for when I shove a boot up your ass after you're done licking the dairy industry's.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Nope, it still applies because I'm a human.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Not so in various parts of the world, which goes to show that humans play fast and loose with rights and morality.

You wanting to uphold those values anyway tells me that you wish for all humans to be treated the same: with dignity and respect. That same belief underpins my desire for animals to have the same, despite many places in the world completely foregoing their rights.

It's a shame that your anthropocentrism doesn't afford empathy for non-human animals

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So... I guess you're done trying to argue your position after running into multiple fallacies, we've moved past the threats and name calling (sorta lol), and we're onto the signaling-false-moral-superiority stage. Cool

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm perfectly keen on continuing to argue my position. You haven't shown me how I've committed any fallacies, and yes I'm very much signalling my moral superiority to you! I hope that came across at some point!

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

Ok buddy, explain to me the difference between artificial insemination and rape.

I'll wait

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago

I am sure laws vary by country, but going with laws here..

One is done with a glorified Turkey baster to livestock. The other with your penis to a woman.

Are we seriously comparing women to livestock here? But even AI to a human woman would be sexual assault, not rape.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

One is done with a glorified Turkey baster to livestock. The other with your penis to a woman.

Both are non-consensual penetrations of animal vaginas. The actors involved need not be the same species, as in bestiality, and the thing used to penetrate need not be a body part. How would you like it if the women loved ones in your life were vaginally penetrated with Turkey basters instead of penises? Makes no difference because the deed is the same: concent is violated and in a sexual (read: vaginal body parts = sexual body parts) manner.

I'm not comparing women to livestock in the slightest, you're putting words in my mouth. I'm saying that actions of rape DONE TO BOTH women and animals bear exact similarity. There is no difference between artificial insemination without consent of women as for animals, and there is no difference between vaginal intercourse without consent of animals as for women. Both of these instances constitute rape.

And artificial insemination without consent to a women is absolutely rape. It consists of vaginal penetration without consent. That is literally the definition.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

You must either life under a different legal system or your farmers are shagging their cattle to inseminate them for it to be rape.

[-] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

How does a farmer find his cows?

Irresistible!

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

They aren't my farmers. I'm vegan.

I sure do want them to stop their industrialized, subsidized rape work though

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Watch rapists try this one nasty trick.

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