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Remember folks. Fascism has never, ever been put down using words.
Arm yourselves. Help others arm themselves. Train with them and form networks.
Dont forget to buy lots of ammo. Guns dont do much without ammo.
Organization is far more important. If the real shit pops off there will be plenty of ammo and guns laying on the ground. Logistics, secure communication, and strong, decentralized organization is vastly more important, and also what is lacking. If there was a real resistance, that's what they would be doing right now.
If you've got a gun you've always got at least one shot in it (throwing the gun at the target)!
Or use it as a melee weapon. People always seem to forget about the pistol whip.
Especially if it's a Hi&Point. The people's firearm.
In Francoist Spain the dictatorship collapsed with the death of Franco and while a violent few years ensued, the Spanish Transition to Democracy was (comparatively) peaceful.
Political strength and popular support were far more important than strength in violence.
Moreover, a violent revolution was never achieved without the attendant political and logistical organization. So regardless of eventual character, the method of building a movement remains the same. Unfortunately it's boring, difficult work that leaves the most active most vulnerable to reprisals. Which is why people like Fred Hampton and Harvey Milk and Berta Cáceres are all so important and also ended up with their brains splattered on their beds/office floors etc.
I have never understood how some think that people with guns can withstand the largest armed forces on the planet.
Yeah, that's why there's no more Taliban. Or ISIS. Or Hamas. Or ...
ISIS and Hamas haven't actually accomplished anything. Not exactly worth emulating.
If we want to emulate the Taliban, we'd have to go hide out in Mexico until the Trump administration gives up and gifts us our country back. Somehow I don't think that would work out for us quite so well.
Time to check out a history book or two. With that attitude, US would still be a colony of Britain. Or the US would've won in Vietnam instead of getting kicked out by the locals. Granted, it is a bit different without an ocean in between, but it could still happen. Or we could break up like what happened to the USSR.
The purpose of an armed resistance isn't a direct confrontation with an armed force. It's the death of a thousand logistical cuts. It's bleeding the country's economy dry by disrupting the commerce required to keep daily life running smoothly and crippling the regime's forces by making people afraid to sign up - one way or another. Whether that's neighborhoods chasing ICE out or people finding out where cops and soldiers live and "paying them a visit" in the dead of night. An armed resistance's goal is to simply be too big of a thorn to ignore but too entrenched and evasive to be worth the amount of money and effort it would take to catch them. Even just their existence in the media is a form of warfare. By simply being in the news they show a population that the regime can be resisted, even by just a bunch of people with guns.
Look at Napoleon's war in Russia in 1812 and his massive losses due to poor supply lines, disease, and the Russians scorched earth policy ahead of the fierce Russian winter. Or to the American Revolution, where a bunch of farmers with guns and the financial backing of France became such a thorn in the side of the British Empire that they became one of the most powerful and obnoxious countries of the past two centuries and are the subject that started this whole conversation.
You can turn your guns on the entire country's population, but then what? You're going to have a hard time keeping troops loyal when it's their friends and family on the other side of the gun, and terrorizing the population like that will make it impossible to keep the propaganda machine going. You'd be forced to rule through direct oppression, which would breed more resentment and more people willing to pick up a gun and fight back. Your only hope is to convince the discontent population that opposition is pointless and the true believers that you are right.
Why don't you ask those guys in Vietnam about that? Or Afghanistan, for that matter.
It wasn't just guns though. In Vietnam, it was traps, tunnels, jungle terrain, etc. And in Iraq/Afghanistan, they used IEDs and suicide bombers...
Insurgency is possible, but it's very costly. And you'd need more than just firearms.
Vietnam
How many are you willing to sacrifice?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War#Casualties
Long line of US vets in my family and I’ve heard over and over never underestimate gorilla warfare
What you are suggesting is really shared terrorism where both sides keep committing war crimes. Oh, actually, that sounds like any war the US has been involved with so I guess that works.
The fact is it is possible to fight back against a stronger foe and win if it comes to that. Again I am responding to your original comment. I think most sane people stuck in the US right now are aware that we’re living in a tinderbox. To be clear I didn’t suggest anything I just simply stated through anecdotal evidence that it is possible to stand up to a larger force and win. Like everyone else I don’t want harm to come to the people I love but that’s not always something we can choose.
Myself, in defense.
Same way people with guns stood against us for like 20 years.
And died in the process. By the tens of millions.
Better die fighting fascism than live under it.
You are separated from reality and have never lived under harsh conditions. It all sounds like fun and games until your children starve in front of you and you can't do anything about it since all systems have broken down.
"Harsh conditions" is what happens when you live under fascism. If you die fighting it, you don't live under harsh conditions, you're dead.
Same with you.
And stood.