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I feel like at least in Germany privacy matters are alive and kicking thanks to GDPR / DSGVO
German EU politicians are also pushing the chat control BS, it seems like it is only a matter of time until these psychos slip these invasive laws through.
I'm noticing a pattern on Lemmy for every time someone makes a general criticism of the EU, the West (tm), Europe etc there's someone in the comments specifically mentioning how Germany is good, actually, regardless of whether Germany was explicitly mentioned or whether it's actually true that Germany is better than other places in the topic at hand. In all likelihood it's just that there's more Germans on Lemmy than people from smaller countries, but it's starting to feel like some weird out of place patriotism is on the rise or something.
Oh no, not again... I'll go ahead and paint my Danish flag white in preperation of what's to come.
Merz's government should be overthrown just for the fact that that semi-human turd used to be a manager at BlackRock
There are also German EU politicians pushing against it. It's not like there is a German consensus to it.
who is pushing against it? the pirate party did not get any seats in the EU parliament this round
For example the greens, the left, the SPD and even the FDP.
Edit: Even the right wing nuts from the AfD are against it.
I didn't say there was German consensus, but the fact that politicians in almost all member states are either pro or considering it is frightening.
You'll always find someone fighting for something stupid. I guess in the EU it's mostly the conservatives pushing for it, who are sadly a bit on the rise right now as it seems.
What do you mean with chat control BS? Care to share a link?
That being said, there are a lot of worrying politicians out there.
https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/4/14/germany-orders-deportation-of-pro-palestine-activists-what-you-should-know
Germany always had a different flavor of distopia, I think the people there similarly to America drink the state sanctioned cool aid so they can never have a Orwellian distopia.
I don't understand what your article has to do with privacy. I understood that is the framework of this conversation. Yes, there's a lot of scary rightwing policing in Germany, but can we stay on topic?
You literally have to provide identification when buying a SIM card for a mobile phone in Germany and it all gets registered.
Most of Europe doesn't have any such thing and even the UK with all it's authoritarian overreach doesn't have this.
There is literally no other use for this other than for the state to be to know who calls who.
Germany is a lot more "papers please" than most of Europe in my personal experience.
Yeah I think it's very subjective and this one anedcote is just that.
In Germany cash is preferred in most places, and that makes tracking payments difficult. This is not the case in most other european countries. That's an another anecdote for you.
That's a "people" preference.
Mandatory registration of who buys a SIM card is a "government" preference.
My point is that in Germany the Legislation favors privacy less than in other countries.
Your point seems to be that in Germany people favor privacy more than in other countries.
I made the point be about legislation because you mentioned GDPR / DSGVO, plus this post is about what governments are shoving down people's throats when it comes to surveillance. I don't expect that most people in Europe actually want governments snooping on their chats.
Still, it's good to know that in Germany the people themselves favor privacy, even if so far they've been less successful at avoiding governmental overreach on surveillance than people in many other European nations (though compared with, say, Britain, Germany is veritable paradise in terms of state surveillance of the civil society).