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With every month that passes, comes greater confirmation that investing in a firearm is the right call. That sucks, because training is expensive as heck on my budget. Hopefully, I won't have to use my shotgun.
Unfortunately, I have a feeling that blood will tell the direction that North America ultimately takes. The original Constitution was written in red, and I expect a renewed one to also drip with crimson.
The tree of Liberty must refreshed with the blood of tyrants and patriots from time to time. I do agree with you. That time is perhaps drawing near.
That time has passed and y'all still sitting on your asses.
No, it's not here just yet. People still aren't ready to risk dying because they are starving and have no hope for tomorrow. As long as the bread and circus are here, there will be no bloody revolution. It takes a very long time to push people that far and we aren't quite there just yet. But you and Korg and start the revolution today if you wish and call all to your banner.
Oh, and one thought to keep in mind as you start that bloody revolution is that historically, revolutionaries make for poor leaders after the revolution. Because they are mostly very unwilling to give up the power the revolution gave them. Best have a solid plan for the transition to peaceful government after the revolution.
Excerpt from the book They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 by Milton Mayer. Longer excerpt available here.
Tell that to the people being ICEd.
checks watch Is it time to start murdering people yet? Because we are definitely going to get a better government by allowing a bunch of edge lords to start killing anything they think is bad.
I did plainly state that revolutionaries tend to not be very good at governance if they win. They are very often captivated by the absolute power and refuse to give it up.
We are already a murderous society. We would not create a better society by going to war with each other. I shudder to think of the government that would arise if we give in to violence again.
Nor will we create a better society if we let tyrants rule either. For most people, the choice is about how you choose to die-- kneeling in front of the pit you just dug or on your feet and fighting for something that might not be much better.
But no matter which you choose, you will probably die.
Oi piss off with “North America”. Fight your own fucking fight, you fucked it up and you can fix it.
Maybe we’ll help in a small way, because unfortunately the US has made itself everyone else’s problem, but otherwise ya’ll gotta deal with your bullshit and actually learn something.
What do you think os gonna happen to Canada and Mexico when the US goes full fasc? You think Canada is gonna be allowed to jut chill up there? Or do you think tabks are gonna come rolling into Toronto just like they did in Austria during the anchsluss?
I think that it’s absolutely going to be our problem, but I also believe that every person from the US just assuming we’re going to solve all their problems, while they’ve barely done anything to stop it themselves, can go fuck themselves.
They have hurt so many people and now they expect everyone to rush in and save them? Piss right the hell off.
No one here is expecting Europe to solve our problems, aside from maybe some deeply unserious liberals who think that politics begins and ends at voting. I have never seen someone suggesting the rest of the world comes in to "save" America. You've invented a strawman in your head and are now saying that it is what everyone in the US believes.
But America's problems are very much the world's problems, and as America begins to accelerate towards collapse, the rest of the world will feel the affects as well.
That’s great for you, but a) the person at the top of this thread says “the direction North America takes” and, as Canadian, excuse me, and b) I have seen others even on this platform say things like how Canada has to go save the US from itself via military intervention. Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean that it hasn’t happened.
Absolutely the US has made it so that as it fails catastrophically it has a lot of tools to try to take everyone else down with it and yes, I understand that means we can’t just ignore the problem, but what was once hope that we could work together to help them has turned into finding ways to untangle ourselves from them and work with more serious countries. It’s gone from “let’s treat this wound” to “there’s necrosis and we need to amputate”. The US has shown the world over and over again that it hates everyone else, that it thinks itself superior and that it has no interest in being civil about any of it. It is a dangerous and self-serving country that can barely handle the basic fundamentals of democracy and human rights and is currently going backwards at an alarming rate.
If they want to isolate themselves from everyone else, and that seems to be the goal, then let ‘em. Even though it will be hard, the rest of the world can pick up the slack. The US doesn’t deserve or need to be in charge and I don’t care how uncomfortable that makes you.
Canada has a population similar to California and a GDP that os a little over half of California's. Anyone who thinks they could invade the US is not living in reality. It seems to me like you are in circles filled with morons. Canada and Mexico have economies that are entirely dependent on the US market. 2/3rds of Canadian trade is with the US, 97% of Canadian oil is exported to American refineries. The US doesn't have to try and do anything to take Canada and Mexico down with us, theor fate will almost inevitably tied with ours, same as what would happen to the EU if Germany suddenly imploded. The time for Canada to insulate itself from America's economic swings was 10 years ago.
I don't think the American empire is a good thing and at no point have i indicated that i do. But you are delusional if you think Canada will be better off in the short term when America goes up in flames. Your best option is that the Canadian economy implodes. Your worst option is a full on fascist invasion by the US military. If America is Nazi Germany, then Canada is our Czechoslovakia/Austria. At this point, Canada is all but guaranteed to go down with the US.
I don’t think it will be better off in the short term, and have been fairly clear about that. I also said that I am fully aware how entangled everything is and that we need to work to get away from the US even though it will be difficult. It appears you are far too fucking stupid to read what has been written so explicitly and that’s just not the basis for a conversation so bye, dumbass.
Like it or not, nations don't exist independently of one another.
It's exactly that isolationist attitude, the delusion that people and their issues stop at the imaginary lines we've drawn, that helps lead to situations like the US is experiencing.
It’s true, but the US fucking everyone’s shit up and ruining lives for decades only to immediately beg for us to fix it while doing barely anything on their own? I say let them suffer for a bit, a consequence will do them good.
And I’m not isolationist, I just want them to fuck off.