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Society is getting sick of selfish "Conservative values"
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I think there are more people than there are meaningful jobs. Like, not everyone needs to be a product person.
Let's do universal basic income, make the essentials free, and let people live life. I have a friend that enjoys being around people, and would work at a coffee shop, but that doesn't pay enough for them to pay for food and housing. I've worked with people who are kind of a net negative at their org, but they're there because they need money to live. It's a bad system.
Maybe it made more sense in like 600CE when your little settlement would collapse if everyone didn't farm all day, but that's not today's world.
I used to work at wal-mart in their tire center. That was the happiest I've ever been at a job. I was good at it, it wasn't too challenging but oddball things happened often enough to make it interesting, I got to BS with my co-workers all day and spend time outside when it was nice out. The only problem was it didn't pay.
The job I have now pays better than anything else I've found by a lot (still can't afford a house) but I hate pretty much every aspect of it. It's almost entirely playing the middle man on a bunch of different projects between users and vendors doing interpersonal shit that I hate dealing with and yet, am still somehow better at than most of my peers... It's not like it's hard work, it's just emailing and phone calls and meetings all day and most of the difficulty comes with the bean counters and c-levels changing course spontaneously without regard for what we're currently working on.
If myself and people like me didn't have to force ourselves into these positions out of desperation I think a lot of them would disappear, or at least be left to the middle management types that thrive on feeling like they're in charge of things and leave us to do the technical shit that we're made for.
And how many want to be entrepreneurs but can't because they lose their healthcare. Sometime something entrepreneurs backbone of economy.
I think that if we had good UBI, people will naturally gravitate towards niches they are suited for. People who like the ocean, will be able to wait for a job opening to become available and slot in, rather than forcing themselves into being an indoor grocer. Those who care for children, will be able to take the training and be on a waitlist for local childcare facilities.
Without the race to earn money just to live, people can afford to wait for a place where they belong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs
Well documented that there's a ton of make-work and very little value add to quite a bit business bureaucracy.
The most successful businesses are often those that operate as make-work mills and gatekeepers, rather than material value-adding firms.
Whether that means we have a ceiling on meaningful work, or we simply don't have anyone doing critical tasks, is an open question. But given our volume of waste and our profound lack of public services, I'm willing to bet a lot of high value labor is neglected in the race to fabricate opportunities for rent seeking.
I can at least speak to one type of value-add, which is wastewater. I worked in a wastewater plant for a year as a lab tech. I even planned to get my operator license so I could stay on as an operator.
While it isn't "neglected", I would have quite literally been making $15/hr as an operator, at a time where I could have gone literally to any minimum wage job and made about that much in my area. That's not taking into account the 84-hr week you're pulling every week - 12 hrs on, 12 hrs off, 7 days (but you're on-call when you're not there). Benefits? Haha. And this was at a major metropolitan plant. I talked to a few smaller plants in the more rural exurbs and they literally were wanting to pay me $8/hr or less, with no benefits either, and they insisted that this was enough to "buy a house in the area".
What you are proposing is wildly unrealistic and not even Communism espouses the idea.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs." - Karl Marx / Étienne-Gabriel Morelly / whoever else.
It doesn't say "From each according to their desire, to each according to their want." and that's because no society that hasn't reached Star Trek replicator levels of post-scarcity could survive such a plan.
As Frederick Hicks noted "There are no issues with this principle as long as there is enough of everything for everybody. But this is not the case and probably never will be, because "man's wants tend always to outstrip his ability to supply them.... [Therefore] it will be necessary to have an agency for determining relative amounts of men's needs."
In most societies today the determining Agency is the Free Market via the value of your labor. In a Communist (Marxist?) society that Agency would be a Committee of Workers but in either case there exists, and must exist, a mechanism to stop the free loaders and abusers.
This isn't a defense of today's hyper-capitalist societies either, we need to be doing far better at reigning that shit in and taking care of people. It is however a push-back against the idea that existence should be without cost and that anything requiring effort needs to be enjoyable.
There's a big gap between "Food, housing, and health care is provided to all" and "take whatever you want, man".
I think that UBI and capitalism are helpful, BUT the latter should solely be for luxuries, such as McMansions, vacations, gardening, media, or Ford-2500 mega trucks. Capitalism is horrible at caring for society, but is excellent for fostering individuality. Problem is, our overlords conflate society and individuality as being the same.
What we need is to prevent necessity and luxury from mixing. Money should be purely for upgrading lifestyle, not a determination of whether you get to eat, rest, have family, or receive healthcare.
There's a big gap between “Food, housing, and health care is provided to all” and “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.”
The former is free existence, the latter demands work as the price for societal support.
What you are wishing for is basically fully automated luxury gay space communism and that cannot exist outside of a true post scarcity world. We do not live in that world.
What part of "basic" do you not understand?
None.
What's being proposed here is free existence until someone decides that they've found a job that they like. That's why Marx, et. all said it the way that they did.
There has never in human history existed a society, government, or economic system built around the idea of "We'll cover all your life expenses so feel free to do as much or as little as you want!"
It cannot work unless we have literal Star Trek Replicator technology so that material things have no real cost or value.