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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Harris was speaking out about it, you just refused to listen.

July: https://www.the-independent.com/tv/news/kamala-harris-says-two-state-solution-is-the-only-path-after-meeting-with-netanyahu-b2586161.html

"two state solution is the ‘only path’ forward"

August: https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/23/politics/gaza-israel-harris-convention-speech/index.html

"Vice President Kamala Harris called for the Palestinian people to be able to “realize their right to dignity, security, freedom and self-determination”

September: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-harris-says-two-state-solution-end-of-israel-hamas-war-is-crucial

"we must have a two-state solution where we can rebuild Gaza where the Palestinians have security, self-determination and the dignity they so rightly deserve.”"

October: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/harris-dodges-direct-question-on-palestinian-deaths-calls-for-2-state-solution-during-cnn-town-hall/3372480

""It’s unconscionable, and we are now at a place where, with (Hamas leader Yahya) Sinwar’s death, I do believe we have an opportunity to end this war, bring the hostages home, bring relief to the Palestinian people and work toward a two-state solution where Israel and the Palestinians, in equal measure, have security, where the Palestinian people have dignity, self-determination and the safety that they so rightly deserve," said Harris."

Every month from becoming the nominee until the election: cease fire, hostage release, two state solution.

These are not genocidal statements.

Trump? https://apnews.com/article/trump-biden-israel-pr-hugh-hewitt-21faee332d95fec99652c112fbdcd35d

“But they’ve got to finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.”

[-] NotACIAPlant@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Every month from becoming the nominee until the election: cease fire, hostage release, two state solution.

These are not genocidal statements.

Actions are louder than words. Biden provided weapons, and coordinated the Israeli genocide of Palestinians in Gaza. So did Trump. There is no meaningful difference in their policies.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Biden did NOT coordinate the genocide, that was done entirely by Israel.

[-] NotACIAPlant@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Biden did NOT coordinate the genocide

Anyone who believes this simply does not understand the relationship between the United States and Israel.

Israel is the single biggest recipient of US aid: https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Biden continuously approved weapons shipments to Israel during the course of the genocide: https://apnews.com/article/us-israel-arms-gaza-ebe971ca8878ff430ce6458c04151585

Israel is what is known as a "Major non-NATO ally", this includes countries like Australia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_non-NATO_ally

Israel receives access to raw USA intelligence: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data-israel-documents

The USA admits that Israel targets civilians in the NSM-20 report that it is required to perform on countries the USA supplies weapons too: https://www.justsecurity.org/95584/nsm-20-report-israel-us/

The USA is joined at the hip with Israel, economically, militarily, and politically. It is unfair to categorize Israel as anything BUT a territory of the United States. The political form of Israel as a "independent state" is just a way for the USA to absolve itself of the crimes of Israel.

It is insult to the collective intelligence of the world to deny the direct link between Israel's genocidal project and the United States materiel support for it. Why does the USA cover for Israel's crimes in the UN? Why does the USA refuse to stop selling arms to Israel? Why does the USA state department lie about Israels obviously genocidal intent in Gaza?

These questions may seem difficult but the answer is obvious. The USA and Israel are coordinating the genocide of Palestinians through an elaborate dance of seemingly being "opposed" to each other at times while in actuality operating in lockstep.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Biden did NOT approve weapons for use in the genocide. You can see the repeated statements of fact on that.

Biden approved weapons for the legitimate defense of Israel, which Israel then misappropriated and misdirected for use in Gaza. The blame for the Gazan genocide lies solely on Israel.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpvne94v1rdo

"The president has made clear Israel has a right to defend its citizens, consistent with international law and international humanitarian law, and to deter aggression from Iran and its proxy organisations.

"We will continue to provide the capabilities necessary for Israel's defence."

At no point did any US agency approve, authorize, or coordinate the genocide. At all. That's a lie perpetuated by anti-US interests intent on blaming the US for everything bad that happens in the world.

[-] NotACIAPlant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Biden did NOT approve weapons for use in the genocide.

This is just a denial of reality. Israel used Biden's bombs to bomb Palestinians. That is a fact.

At no point did any US agency approve, authorize, or coordinate the genocide.

The USA and Israel intelligence apparatus is linked at the hip. We share raw-intelligence data with them without vetting it first. Did you know that the USA had troops in Israel to operate the THAAD missile defense system? Did you know that Biden's so called "Humanitarian Aid Pier" was actually a staging ground for use in the Nuseirat Hostage Raid?

I think the link between the USA and Israeli intelligence community is kind of the nail in the coffin for any denial of coordination.

AT BEST the USA has direct knowledge that Israel is performing a genocide in Gaza, and the response is... send them more weapons? If there is NO coordination (which I find impossible to believe), then essentially, the USA has (and had) full knowledge a genocide is taking place, while funding and arming it. I don't see how that is any better than coordinating directly.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Biden did not once, ever, tell Israel "Why, yes, please, use these weapons to kill as many Palestinians as you want."

The stated purpose for the weapons was the legitimate defense of Israel from hostile forces such as Iran.

Israel then illegitimately used the weapons in Gaza, but that is not the reason they were provided.

There is one country to blame for the genocide and that is Israel.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago
[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I get it, .ml accounts, US bad. Get a new shtick, yours is old and busted.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah, because you cowards defederated from hexbear and lenmygrad. 🙄

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Taking out the trash is a necessity and good hygiene.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago
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