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Society is getting sick of selfish "Conservative values"
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People skeeting stuff.
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Don't change the hypothetical.
He asked if a 28 yo who can work but refuses to should receive free health care.
I dunno about you but my answer is yes.
First: do no harm.
Second: make sure your patient is contributing to society in accordance with his ability.
Exactly. This is how the message gets watered down and ends up means tested garbage. I believe in universal healthcare that is free at the point of service.
I don’t think I changed the hypothetical. He seems to be complaining there are out-of-work 28 year olds who aren’t, I dunno, taking the backbreaking vacancies left by all the migrants they’re deporting for like $2/hour, plus that they want healthcare. Both are ignorant takes, but the ‘they don’t want these jobs’ thing stands out to me because we fucking told them nobody can hope to live on those wages, so bitching ‘kids these days’ don’t want these jobs is a massive facepalm.
Of course we should have universal healthcare.
e: and to be clear, none of these jobs will ever be filled by citizens, not because they’re ‘above it’ or whatever, but you can’t usually extort a citizen into ‘wages’ that low (read: make them a literal slave) by holding their visa hostage or threatening to have them deported back to the situation they fled from. And some of those situations are far, far worse than being dramatically underpaid.
I misspoke, really, because I shouldn't have said change. I'm reality, you didn't address the hypothetical at all.
My point was it doesn't matter if these people exist or not. That's the point of a hypothetical.