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[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 5 days ago

I guess outward fascism towards the 3rd world, and inward fascism towards the USA's own population seem like different things to you.

Trump's doing both, while Kamala sure as hell would have ensured the former.

We cannot live this contradiction in the USA anymore. Freedom and diversity for Americans means freedom and diversity for all humans. I'm so sick and tired of centrist liberals defending this corrupt USA that perpetuates the enslavement of the third world.

[-] prole 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I guess outward fascism towards the 3rd world, and inward fascism towards the USA's own population seem like different things to you.

Whatever bullshit you have to tell yourself to sleep at night.

There's no such thing as "inward" or "outward" fascism. You're just making shit up.

It's just fascism, and your inaction has directly led to it. Well done.

Edit: here's one lovely reply to this comment that was removed. Totally normal. And let's be clear, I have not denied nor supported any genocide, I simply said that fascism is fascism and you don't break it into "internal" and "external", and this is what someone feels they need to say to me:

God I want to feel the hardness of your skull as I punch you repeatedly again and again, ignoring you painal scream as I fucking stab you over and over.

Genociders deserve death.

Here's their profile: https://thelemmy.club/u/wowAnotherPos

Normal stuff. Comment is deleted, but still has 2 points.

This is because I'm angry at people who refused to vote for Kamala. That means I deserve to be violently stabbed to death apparently.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 days ago

Is it not liberals' agenda to retain some semblance of civil rights, while at the same time upholding foreign policy?

Gay Nazis are still Nazis.

You're dreaming of a state of affairs that doesn't exist.

Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

You contradict yourself, if "it's just fascism", then it was already fascism when the Democrats were doing it overseas

[-] prole 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Did I fucking say it wasn't? Jesus Christ, you people need to focus your ire on those who actually deserve it.

I SAID THAT IT'S ALL FASCISM. Learn to fucking read.

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I’m so sick and tired of centrist liberals defending this corrupt USA that perpetuates the enslavement of the third world.

Luckily thanks to you and others like you they lost. Yay! Good job!

Now what?

[-] theparadox@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Now what?

Now you get to ignorantly blame progressives for what was, ultimately, a Democrat policy failure. Bonus - doing so drives a wedge between Democrats! Yay! Good job!

Now how about you do something fucking constructive.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Luckily thanks to you and liberals like you, instead of fighting back against the GOP in the 2 times these last 20 years where Democrats have had SUPER MAJORITIES in Congress, you passed half measures while playing identity politics.

We could have had meaningful, material improvements to people's lives, a good marker of de-escalation of violence, but instead the DNC, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and liberals clung to their monopoly on the only counter party to the fascists we have.

You all are still coping that you lost the 2024 election, and you're rutterless as to why

I have a clue: see what makes Zohran Mamdani so popular in New York. It has to do with rejecting the Democratic establishment and all the billionaire donors that back it

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

I don't even live in the USA, fuck off with this bullshit.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago

Stay out of our fucking politics then!!

[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Centrism will never bear fascism, you need actual opposition. Crazy how you all still dont realize this yet? How long will it take?

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

What do you mean, "you all"? I'm not American.

[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

What does your reading comprehension level have to do with being American lmao

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Mostly that "centrism" means a completely different thing in a working democracy with more than one and a half parties. It's super common for Americans to view the whole world from the limited perspective of their screwed up politics, ignorant and unwilling to learn of how things are elsewhere.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 days ago

Trump’s doing both, while Kamala sure as hell would have ensured the former

Harris would've continued status quo, yes. But Trump wants to accelerate it. He wants all Palestinians out of Gaza so he can build a beach resort where their homes used to be. There is a non-zero chance of American boots on ground to help clear out any remaining Palestinians.

[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Kamala will never beat Trump, shes crazy unpopular and neoliberalism is dead. You need an opposition to fascism, pretty simple.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 days ago

Well of course she wouldn't, she's a woman and America is crazy sexist.

Biden did, with nothing but neoliberalism and status quo. So there, Americans want neoliberalism, they just don't want a woman in charge.

[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

She offered no policy to Americans except "Trump is worse." She will never beat Trump or fascism. Americans want fascism , fascism lite doesnt beat fascism. You want to beat fascism you need opposition

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 days ago

Less than a third want fascism, and even then, some people that voted for Trump are getting their faces eaten by leopards.

We need progressive opposition politicians that can speak to what Americans want: affordability, equity, health care.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 days ago

Harris advocated for limited government control of grocery and food prices, a cap on prescription drug costs, and expansion of the child tax credit.[17][18] On immigration, Harris supported increasing the number of Border Patrol agents and reforming the immigration system. On foreign policy, she supported continued military aid to Ukraine and Israel in their respective wars, but insisted that Israel should agree to a ceasefire and hostage deal and work towards a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Straight off Wikipedia because I'm not going to find better sources for a troll.

Not a fan of some of those (Immigration and continued support of Israel), but you can't tell me that moderate government control over the fast-rising grocery prices or a cap on prescription drug costs is a bad thing? Also while the republican solution to a lack of children being born is to outlaw abortions and sex ed, she planned a large tax credit you'd get for having a newborn. How is that not a better solution to the birth crisis the conservatives are yelling about?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

This is big "Hitler made the trains run on time" energy.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 days ago

...but the other guy is LITERALLY TRYING TO BUILD A RESORT IN GAZA. How is he better???

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

He's not. The individual that you're replying to is known for extreme bad faith and reporting people who disagree with them. I recommend ignoring.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

Thankfully they've been banned from the community, but I went ahead and blocked them. I do engage with those kinds of folks, but only because I want them to go further and further into saying things that are so blatantly ridiculous, nobody can take them seriously anymore.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Americans want neoliberalism, they just don’t want a woman in charge.

neoliberals want neoliberalism and they pretend that harris lost because she's a woman in order to shut out AOC.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

Some 67% of Gen Z white men voted Trump thanks to the manosphere influencers but go off on how America isn't growing increasingly sexist lol

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Oh, it's increasingly sexist all right. Democrats are now saying that women can't win because they don't want a particular woman to run.

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[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago

Good thing in the years leading up to October 7th, when Democrats were in office, we couldn't force Israel to adopt a one-state solution.

Obama, Biden, Harris, they're all complicit in the aggressive approach of Israel towards the apartheid and genocide they commit today.

And not just today. For the past 75+ years

[-] ReiRose@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Hopefully he accelerates it so quickly that Americans will actually push back. And if they still aren't convinced to arm themselves and take to the streets at least they may start to use all their sick time and vacation time.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 days ago

Lol at Americans pushing back at a genocide happening in another country

Never going to happen. It'll just be a more thorough and fast genocide with increased US government support. The primary difference is that now there's going to be TWO genocides because latinos in the US are another target. But of course Trump isn't any worse than Harris.

[-] ReiRose@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I meant the acceleration into facism that would impact people's lives. I agree, Americans (in general) won't do anything too uncomfortable to defend people somewhere else. If he starts rounding up and killing Latinos I think there'd be a but more of a fuss.

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