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[-] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Representation, does not matter. Your skin colour, your sex, your gender, who you love, dont matter. Only your character matters. Who you are as a person. If you need to see yourself in tv and movies, thats what we call in the business "Narcissism". But seeing the qualities that you share, well, now thats something people want to see.

But you are right. The one thing that Disco did right, was in making these characters just characters. They werent special, they werent given special attention. They were just members of the crew like everyone else. THIS is how star trek is supposed to do it. By making it "normal" or everyday or regular. However you wanna say it. But then later on when they introduce the non binary character, they make a song and dance about it. Like this kid in year 3000 is going to have to "be brave" about correcting someone on their pronouns. Like Star Trek hasnt met thousands of other species of all walks and variations and no one in it would bat an eye. Having a lingering shot of Stamets beaming with pride is not Star Trek. To do that in a star trek way, Stamets should have just said "sorry" and they move on instantly.

Back in the day, they didnt make a big song and dance about Uhura on the bridge. She was just there. It was "normal". This is how Star Trek should be doing stuff like this. Because thats what star trek is, or was. Star Trek is supposed to be about showing us who we could be, not showing us who we are.

[-] klemptor@startrek.website 2 points 2 days ago

Respectfully, representation absolutely does matter. Having Uhura on the bridge was representation. Sisko and Janeway were representation. Culber and Stamets were representation. People need to be able to watch characters who are like themselves and are heroic, important, respected, admired. It doesn't mean there's a song and dance. And I don't know what you mean with "we call in the business Narcissism".

I agree they mishandled the stuff with Adira - actually I hated that character and their entire arc because the writing was lousy and super inconsistent, and the writers squandered what could've been an interesting character in favor of angsty awkward teenager stuff. The specific scene you're talking about was well-intentioned but very clumsily handled and I agree, correcting someone on your pronouns should be no big deal in the 30th century.

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