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Why do the rich want more money? What does it get them at this point?
Psychopathy.
I've got a hot take, this is what happens when a country model itself to the Roman Empire. Yes, they have got civil codes and institutions impressive for "civilised society", but the society is based on slavery, was well known for decadence and last but not least-- imperialism. Notice that countries that took inspiration from Roman Empire end up collapsing. Britain, Germany, France, Italy and Russia had empires and collapsed, and soon the USA. Imperialism carried over to these countries that tried to claim to be either the second or third Rome, or another "shining beacon on the hill". What end up happening is bloated bureaucracy, growth of cancerous decadent oligarchy and overextending its power. Why not just try to be humble and be like small countries, such as Switzerland or Ireland? They have no rabid, overcompensating collective egoism that try to beat everyone else, and going on false pretense on "civilising" the natives to merely acquire resources. Or, try to be China in any form, just don't expand and simply do its own thing by being the centre of trade and commerce by virtue of its own size and abundant resources.
Feel free to disagree, but growing up in post-colonial country, I can't help but criticise the Roman Empire and the West's obsession with it. I always think that the long dead nation of Rome is overrated for aforementioned reasons.
America’s fall isn’t too much different from the Roman Republic’s own fall. Trump wants to be Caesar and he will probably get betrayed pretty soon like Caesar considering all the Epstein stuff.
Brought down by his own allies. It happens more often than people think. Many world leaders have been assassinated by their own side, or even highly trusted associates.
You're probably correct in your assessment, but the bottom line is that ALL countries eventually collapse, no matter what model they adopt. Even those that claim an ancient lineage, like China, have reinvented themselves multiple times, just keeping the name.
Smaller societies tend to last longer and more peaceful. Switzerland and Scandinavian countries have not been in any wars (barring with the exception for the latter of course during World War II) in 200 years because they have no appetite for it. Many other ethnic groups in South East Asia and Africa have not been in wars either for as long as anyone could remember (there are exception of course if they get caught in a wider conflict like World Wars, etc).
Fair point about China. But what is interesting is that their pre-20th century history and identity is tied to whichever was the ruling dynasty at the time, some of whom are not Chinese but adopt the overall Chinese culture, identity and institutions; although at times impose some of their own culture and customs to the locals but not so much. It isn't the same as in Europe and elsewhere, where the cultural identity changes if foreign armies invade.
It's a mental illness, like hoarding. Most people know when to quit, but these people don't, and that's because they have an abnormal compulsion to keep accumulating more, even though they already have more than they or their descendants could ever spend.
We shouldn't let our nation and planet go to Hell because everybody is afraid to force these Psychopathic Oligarchs to take medication for their mental illness, or even say No to their unreasonable demands. The result is that we end up with people so wealthy that they can finance their most psychotic fantasies.
I agree with all of this, just want to add a little bit: these treated fucks are literally offended that we have anything. Because then we don't "remember our place" or whatever.
Anything we have, is something they don't have, and their mental illness compels them to want to own EVERYTHING.
Power.
Let’s say you didn’t know you were going to be well off. You paid into SS like everyone else. Later in life you find yourself worth a few millions for whatever reason, maybe a lifetime of good jobs work and wise investing. You don’t get any money back? Unfortunately a lot of people will call a few million after a lifetime of work and investing “rich.”
Now if you’re worth many tens or hundreds of millions or more, or you were born into wealth, maybe getting SS shouldn’t really be on the table.