I might be able to help clear this up for you. Whether or not the take is spicy depends on how transphobic or ignorant the parties involved are, so I'll start by addressing the facts.

• If you are a woman, then it is gay to be attracted to a trans woman.

• If you are a man, then it is not gay to be attracted to a trans woman.

• Regardless of whether you or anyone else is a man, woman, gay, or otherwise, and of whatever physical bits are involved, you are not obligated to be attracted to anyone in particular.

• If you are a straight man, and you do not visually perceive the trans woman as appearing consistent with your idea of what a woman should look like, then you are unlikely to be attracted to her.

• If you are a straight man who is attracted to a trans woman and feel uncomfortable with or threatened by it, then you are transphobic. This doesn't necessarily mean you hate trans people, it can just mean that you fear being associated with them or having to think about them.

On spiciness:

• If you are addressing people who are ignorant of all this, they will not know enough to consider your take spicy.
• Your statement is too vague to determine whether your intent is transphobic or not. If the context of your take is that you do not consider trans women to be women, then your take will be spicy to people who are not transphobic, but it will not be spicy to people who are transphobic (or ignorant, as mentioned previously).

Trans women are women. A man being attracted to a woman is...not gay. They only thing that's gay is being attracted to men.

Not muscular women, not short-haired women, not trans women. Men. M.E.N.

I don't know about it being spicy, but I disagree. People are not their genitals.

To clarify further, do you think being attracted to trans men (assuming you're a guy) is gay?

The mental exercise here seems to either go one of two ways for me. Either you just consider gender, or you have a relationship orientation that's separate from physical orientation.

I honestly don't know where I fall on this particular topic. I've known very few trans people at all (at least in person- obviously I've seen tons of them in different movies and shows and YouTube channels), so I haven't really had a chance to figure out how I feel about them for the sake of relationships.

I think either would understand me in different ways (since they either are or were treated as guys).

But if I had to guess, I think I would still prefer trans women to trans men as far as being in a relationship with one.

The one thing I do know is that if I ever did fuck a dude, it would be a trans dude.

But really I'm more concerned with how I feel about the person than I am about their junk. There so much more to a relationship than how fucking works and I'd much rather just be totally in love with the person vs in love with their crotch.