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[-] doleo@lemmy.one 32 points 1 week ago

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I am once again asking the question: Why don't cars have built-in speed regulators?

There's constant chatter about the potential risks associated with the rise in e-bikes, but little to no mention of regulating the existing menace. You want to talk about excessive power? Look no further.

[-] brot@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

It's even harder with cars: Why are cars even allowed to go 240km/h? Yeah, there is the german autobahn, but there's no reason why a car which is registered in France should be able to go faster than the french max motorway speed limit. There is also no reason to allow cars to be able to go from 0 to 100 in x seconds. There is no use case for that, even if you try to merge into a motorway or overtake somewhere.

[-] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago

The drive from France to the nearest German motorway without a speed limit isn't that far, though.

You can also do track days and such, but I agree with you they don't need to be that quick

[-] RepleteLocum 3 points 1 week ago

Actually, the speed should be a bit over the speed limit. What if you are driving the speed limit, but suddenly someone almost hits you? You gotta drive a bit faster.

[-] witty_username@feddit.nl 7 points 1 week ago

Totally agree with you. Would like to add that we should also limit the noise that cars and motorcycles make. Many places have noise regulations but they are rarely enforced

[-] AstaKask@lemmy.cafe 6 points 1 week ago

There's a requirement to electronically limit the speed of all new road vehicles sold in the EU since 2024. The only problem is the vast difference in highway speeds within the Schengen area.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/European_Speed_Limits.svg/1280px-European_Speed_Limits.svg.png

[-] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Electronic limits are a bunch of bullshit, because they can be easily turned off.

Constructively limited top speeds would make a whole lot more sense.

[-] drspod@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago
[-] doleo@lemmy.one 7 points 1 week ago

Thank you for sharing, that was an interesting read. I hadn’t heard of this before.

The first two feedback options do not directly intervene but only provide warnings (first optic and if no response from the driver, a delayed acoustic/vibrating warning), which have to be as short as possible in duration to avoid potential annoyance of the driver.

This part was particularly amusing.

[-] Alerian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Not that I don't agree with you, but to be fair, cars do require a license, they have to be registered and reguraly checked, which is not the case for a bike. In my opinion the failure here is that those should not be allowed for sale as bikes. Those are motocycle in all but name.

[-] Bob@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

In Norway e-bikes are extremely strictly regulated: They need to have a power output of 250 W or less, motor output has to be linked to your pedaling movements, and the motor has to shut off completely when you reach 25 km/h. Anything more than that and you need to register it as a scooter/motorcycle. At which point you need a drivers licence, insurance, and can no longer ride it on bike paths. I was under the impression that this was an EU requirement. But maybe S-Pedelecs are treated like normal bicycles in the rest of Europe?

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But maybe S-Pedelecs are treated like normal bicycles in the rest of Europe?

No, it's exactly like you've described the situation in Norway.

[-] Alerian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

It's the same in the EU but as with cars, the power can be electronically limited, so the user can remove the limitation with some limited tinkering. So you end up with and electric motorbike, and there is no regular check or registration. I have also never Heard of any form of control about this. Still better than letting people buy cars that can go 250kmh and trusting them with it, but at least you can track car owners.

[-] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

There's constant chatter about the potential risks associated with the rise in e-bikes, but little to no mention of regulating the existing menace. You want to talk about excessive power?

Of course this is worked on, it is an EU goal to reduce traffic deaths to zero - for example with speed limits for cars:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vision_Zero.

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