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Who Remember This? We Also Broadcasted It Live To Schoolrooms (lemmy.ml)
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[-] Bldck@beehaw.org 8 points 2 months ago

I meanโ€ฆ not really.

๐Ÿ›ฐ๏ธ Space Race Fatalities Comparison: Soviet Union vs United States

Aspect ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ United States ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Soviet Union
Total astronaut/cosmonaut deaths 9โ€“10 (incl. test/training accidents) 8 (official)
On-mission fatalities 3 (Apollo 1, ground test) 4 (Soyuz 1, Soyuz 11)
Training/test deaths (astronauts) 6+ (e.g. Theodore Freeman, C.C. Williams) 4+ (e.g. Valentin Bondarenko, others possibly unacknowledged)
Deaths among ground personnel <10 100+ (notably the Nedelin disaster)
Transparency High (accidents publicized and investigated) Low (many incidents hidden until after 1989)
Major catalyst event Apollo 1 fire Soyuz 1, Nedelin disaster
Key Takeaways
  • ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ U.S. suffered more astronaut fatalities, including test pilots and training accidents.
  • ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Soviets had higher total human losses, especially among engineers and soldiers during explosive launch and fuel testing incidents.
  • ๐Ÿ”ฅ The Apollo 1 fire led to sweeping design and safety reforms in NASA.
  • ๐Ÿšจ The Soyuz 1 and Soyuz 11 tragedies were fatal in-flight accidents; Soyuz 11 remains the only in-space human fatality.
  • ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธ The Nedelin disaster, one of the worst rocket catastrophes in history, killed over 100 but was kept secret for decades.
  • ๐Ÿงพ Transparency and institutional accountability were key differences: NASA publicly investigated accidents; the USSR often concealed failures.
[-] josefo@leminal.space 35 points 2 months ago

God I hate AI

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You can certainly blur the space race with missile development as they were intimately tied on both sides, and if you want to include it then the deaths from the US ICBM disasters need to be included as well, but I do think it's a bit absurd to uncritically report that 100+ people died in Nedelin when official numbers revealed it to be 54. Plus, wherever you sourced this from is clearly generally biased against the soviets beyond the scope of this report.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 months ago

grok is this true

[-] Gloomy@mander.xyz 9 points 2 months ago

It's true that all deaths on both sides were caused by people with JEWISH names. Coincidence? Not likley. Hitler killed less people. Elon is god. Sieg. Sieg!1!!!1

Grok, probably

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