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If voting didn't change things. They wouldn't be working so hard to take away the ability or right to vote from certain groups. Or negate their votes. Voting matters. But so does who's counting. It's an uphill battle. But there are almost no better battles to be fighting.
Look at the user name and you'll understand the sentiment.
That must be why things are getting better. They’ll let you vote for culture war policy, but not economic policy. The battle in the streets is where real change happens. Protests. Strikes, organizing, unions. That’s what scare the capitalists. Hypothetically, if we overwhelmingly voted for Socialism, you think they would allow that?
Actually the fact that things are getting better is a very reason why conservatives are on a cultural jihad. It used to be that hateful bigotry and exclusion was normal for people who did not meet intolerant conservatives approval. Nowadays they are allowed to get married and even be open with who they are and that just really upsets conservatives.
And believe me. As a Gen X socialist in the Midwest I would like to see things improve economically as well. But the fact that I have to try to pool my votes with liberals on heavily flawed capitalist candidates. In the simple hope that the outright insane conservative candidates don't get elected. Which they generally do. Is very frustrating to me. But seeing conservatives try to take away my general ability to vote lets me know that I'm doing the right thing.
You should have never been put in the position of having to choose between a fascist dictatorship or a mediocre corporatocracy.
People should not have to experience a lot of things in their lives that they do. But what sets them apart is how they handle them. Defeatism only begets defeat. And the only way to affect change is through the broken system. It's doable but a lot of hard work.
I’m not defeatist. I can argue you are. I want a grass roots popular revolution to usurp the corrupt electoral system. You want to keep it the same and hope it gets better over time. We don’t have time with climate change. This is where I am.