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[-] amino 15 points 1 month ago

only if you insist on treating being a Nazi as something white men grow out of with age

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

Are there other incurable states of mind that would require people to be shunned forever?

[-] amino 10 points 1 month ago

yeah, arguing in bad faith

[-] prole 4 points 1 month ago

Nope, just fascism.

[-] zpiritual@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Is it something they inherently do? No. Is it something they can do?, Of course. Just like anyone evolve over time. Especially when you're into something just to be edgy.

[-] amino 1 points 1 month ago

so it's OK to be one as long as you're just trying to be edgy? why are white men always left off the hook?

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

That's not even close to remotely what they said. They said it's easy to become one if you're trying to be edgy. They never said it was OK. They said you can change and get out of it. If you were just doing it to be edgy, and not because you believed white people are superior, then it's easier to change.

Argue in good faith if you're going to argue. Don't change people's words to fight a strawman. It only makes you look stupid.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

I watched a documentary recently about a former skin head who was getting his tattoos removed because he hated them because he didn't believe that stuff anymore. I don't remember his age, but he had to be in his 30s.

You don't "grow out of it" but you can learn that you were wrong. I'm not saying that anyone should support pewdeepie, but it should be encouraged when people change their views like that. Even if he's being dishonest, it should be encouraged that he's telling others it's wrong, and also that it's more beneficial to not do that.

The goal should not be revenge, it should be less hate. Revenge only puts us further away from what we supposedly want.

[-] amino 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

if anyone wanted revenge on him, it would be extremely easy for someone to find him and do him harm. stop trying to make cancel culture against white men a real thing. Felix is one of the richest YouTubers in the world. if the reality you're painting actually existed, he'd be bankrupt by now and deplatformed.

let's stop acting like Nazis need to be personally hugged and kissed on the forehead until they stop being violent

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

stop trying to make cancel culture against white men a real thing.

Where did I say that? I just said revenge doesn't gain us anything if it prevents people from becoming less asshole, or spreading that behavior.

let's stop acting like Nazis need to be personally hugged and kissed on the forehead until they stop being violent

Let's stop acting like former Nazis are just as bad as existing ones. Unless you're going to kill him, shut the fuck up. He exists and is going to use his platform, whether you like it or not. I'd rather it not be used to promote Nazism.

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