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[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

that commenter was me. Try ctrl+f.

Your explanation of the joke would suggest that it would be equally funny if the question were "what's 21 + 3?" But obviously that isn't true -- the joke is meant to be that both 4 and 4! are equally valid answers to the question. However, in reality, 4 is not a valid answer; I just feel the same disappointment any prescriptivist feels when they see a word misused.

[-] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

No because 4 is the obvious wrong answer. 21+3 my isses idea completely.

4(exclamation) is wrong while 4(factorial) is right.

I think the smugness of someone who knows factorials is also part of what makes it fun.

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Right, but in my mind, 25-5÷5, 4 is obviously the wrong answer.

If you think that many people would not find 4 to be obviously wrong, then surely you must agree with what I have been saying this whole time: the comic assumes people struggle with order of operations.

[-] EmptySlime 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Yes, the comic assumes people struggle with the order of operations. It does not however assume that of the reader. It is intended to make the reader assume that the character struggles with it and it's enthusiastically wrong rather than that they're using the ! operator.

At worst the comic is trying to be engagement bait and trick those people into commenting some variation of "Wrong, the correct answer is 24. You always do the division first," to which someone can reveal to them that they were bamboozled because "4!" is in fact 24.

Edit: and if they catch that it's like "Haha, you almost tricked me with that sneaky factorial. Well played." That's where the humor comes from. Whether or not it manages to trick you into thinking that they did it wrong.

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago

Yes, the comic assumes people struggle with order of operations.

And this is why I said, "did nobody learn order of operations?"

How did you instantly know that the character struggled with it? Because you thought that order of operations is something many people struggle with, so it was the first thing you checked. Imagine an alternative:

12 ÷ 2 = 3!

"Ah, you forgot that ÷ 2 does not mean dividing twice" -- this is just not a mistake you'd think somebody would make, so it's not funny. If this were the comic, I would just say, "did nobody learn how division works?"

[-] EmptySlime 1 points 1 hour ago

Look at you missing the point entirely again or being intentionally fucking obtuse.

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