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Originally Posted By u/Buster_xx At 2025-06-11 07:47:11 AM | Source


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[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 month ago

Americans sure enjoyed sitting on their hands during the 2024 presidential election when they could’ve prevented all of this…

[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 month ago

Half of them are brainwashed. Its crazy how propaganda works. Then you ask one of them if they've ever even met a trans person, and they haven't. Even though by their estimates 50% of the US is Trans xD . Idiots.

[-] ThatsTheSpirit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I really hate this type of rhetoric, not dissimilar to the cringe af "vote blue no matter who". It really ignores the decades long malicious attack on american consciousness itself, on truth and history. The American people are disenfranchised from political thought and economic action by design. Im not sure how much voting in america even matters at this point, the dnc capitulated HARD to fascists during the election, as is their historical prerogative (to defend capital interest), blaming the citizens just seems meaningless at this point. At a certain point you have to admit this is just what liberal democracy degenerates to every time.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

Maybe think about implementing proportional representation if you hate 2 big parties so much. Kamala Harris is leagues of Donald Trump and you’re trolling if you think they’re the same…

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nobody said they are the same, and you're trolling if you think they did. The above is spot on correct.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The comment encourages not voting with "vote blue no matter who"

That’s Implying they think both parties are “just as bad”

It’s the worst take anarchists have. You use every tool in the box not completely abandoned an important one such as voting ceding all ground to maga candidates playing right into the hands of Trump.

You can demand for electoral reform, read independent journalism, protest, support unions, join cooperatives and only buy from companies that don’t contribute to political parties just as a few listed examples.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 9 points 1 month ago

VBNMW is cringe to a whole lot more people than just "anarchists". It doesn't just speak to voter participation, it speaks to a sense of entitlement that Democratic politicians have. It reminds me of Hillary's "It's her turn" slogan.

Democrats are, in almost every situation, the better choice. Political junkies know that, but most people aren't political junkies. We criticize the Democratic sense of entitlement because we know how it comes off to regular voters. It's political malpractice to constantly display that kind of entitlement. That slogan needs to die.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

First-past-the-post is litterally the problem you have with American democracy, it’s intentionally designed to only work for 2 competitors in an election race.

You’re not going to have a better democrat party unless you force them to face actual competition with elections under the single-transferable vote they would quickly improve their act facing small parties and independents winning seats. Portland uses this system already for their elections.

Americans need to stop accepting just 2 choices when they deserve more and better.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 6 points 1 month ago

Absolutely true and entirely useless on a national scale right now. FPTP is what we have and it's the system in which we must elect candidates who will move us to a better system. Primaries are where the game has to be played right now, and for that we need to kill the notion that loyal Democrats shouldn't criticize sitting Democrats.

Portland is not politically typical. It can be a model, but it has to be a model for political culture before it can be a model for how to enact a better voting system.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Many of us voted against this. And many more were purged from the voting rolls when it was too late to re-register.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It’s more so because not enough people didn’t do their part to oppose fascism at the ballot.

Republicans didn’t have that much control over the state and local election rules at the time.

So no you don’t get to hand weave personal-responsibility away from those who did nothing that day.

Tankies and Anarchists need to be called out for encouraging this self-destructive behaviour.

[-] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

You but see here. The other option was a black female. That's a difficult choice for them.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 10 points 1 month ago

Republicans inspire hate and lead people to ignorance. Democrats inspire nobody and lead them nowhere. Then Democrats whine that they can't win because people are ignorant and hateful.

[-] Kaput@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Americans have been sitting on their hands for way longer than that.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

The largest bloc who regularly sit out elections really anger me especially post-2016.

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