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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 91 points 1 month ago

Is... uh... is now a good time to talk about this?

[-] sxan@midwest.social 47 points 1 month ago

There are few times when you can justifiably go after a person because of something a relation did. As much as I hate Elon, he's not culpable for whatever his brother has or hasn't done, unless he participated somehow.

Let's not stoop.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

As much as I hate Elon, he’s not culpable for whatever his brother has or hasn’t done

Elon is a known horndog and sex pest. I think it's less "he's responsible" and more "he's just as mixed up in the Lolita Express gang as any of these assholes".

Incidentally, Gislaine Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton's wedding. I don't think that means Chelsea is a rapist. But I do think Bill is, and this kind of close relationship further illustrates the circle all these people ran in.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 12 points 1 month ago

Sure, but that was about Elon's brother. Surely if Elon was involved with Epstein there will be evidence; it's not like he was shy about being photographed.

This guilty by association stuff feels like an witch trial evidence, when there's plenty of stuff to hang Elon with that he did himself.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This guilty by association stuff

My guy, you don't need guilt by association to find people who have accused Elon of being a sex pest.

https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-paid-250000-to-a-flight-attendant-who-accused-elon-musk-of-sexual-misconduct-2022-5

Why are you pretending otherwise?

[-] sxan@midwest.social 8 points 1 month ago

I'm not. Don't put words in my mouth.

Someone posted a picture of an article about Elon's brother. Elon's brother's sons are not Elon's. Hunter's crimes are not Joe's.

Elon's absolutely a sex pest; why are you trying to prove it with an article about his brother?

[-] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Not OP here- Did you miss the second half of the sentence of theirs you quoted?

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Do people think we won't remember the second half of the sentence lmao like who does op think he's fooling

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Unless you know something I don't, Monica was consenting the entire time.

And don't say "he used his position of power to force her". She said in multiple interviews that she enjoyed it and felt excited. The only time she started to feel negative feelings is whdn Linda Tripp got involved and betrayed her.

These are Monicas own words. It wasn't rape.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

These are Monicas own words.

Okay, now ask Juanita Broaddrick, Eileen Wellstone, and Sandra Allen James among others.

[-] chocosoldier 2 points 1 month ago

so here's a fun thing to know about. when the epstein flight logs were released i put on a pot of coffee and spend the entire morning reading through them.

bill clinton is all up in those flight logs.

and each time he's in them there's also a line that reads something like "secret service (6)" and it's now and again here and there for a couple years... UNTIL i wanna say it was april or may '02(?) (i don't have it on hand anymore and my memory is fuzzy), suddenly it's Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, and a conspicuous absence of secret service. over and over and over again for like a month-plus.

that's no smoking gun but it is suggestive as FUCK. you can go see it for yourself.

[-] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The thing is Bill does not seem to be a kiddie diddler. Aside from Monica Lewinsky and a Miss America contestant they tend to be later twenties to whatever his current age was. They affairs tended to be with women who were pretty and young whereas his alleged assault victims are all adults too.

He's vile but not a pedo

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The thing is Bill does not seem to be a kiddie diddler.

How low is the bar that we're at "sexual assault isn't such a big deal if they're over eighteen".

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

They didn't say it wasn't a big deal, they said it wouldn't be pedophilia. Big difference there

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Nobody was talking about pedophilia before they brought it up.

Epstein trafficked and abused plenty of older women, too.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Really? I didn't know that, his pedophilia is more well-known I guess. Thanks for informing me. Either way, you're allowed to bring up new topics in a conversation.

[-] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Epstein trafficked kids so I dont think Clinton's association with Epstein was for sex stuff sorry if i was not clear

[-] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Its a familial rot. They are all guilty, that is the point.

[-] msprout@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You gotta understand that Elon as a business person has never been just Elon — it has always been Elon and Kimbal. They are thick as thieves, friend, there isn't much humanity to be sqwozed here.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago

Do we accept the same about Hunter and Joe? Certainly father and son are just as close.

[-] msprout@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Sir, this is a Wendy's.

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