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[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The same people comparing their cars, bank accounts, houses, even their dogs and schools their children go to. to decide who is ""alpha"" and who is poor. Capitalist religion-induced issues.

[-] 0ops@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Ngl, I frankly kinda doubt that who owns the means of production has any bearing on an individual's self-consciousness regarding their penis size

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Do you think the same about makeup? It is so easy to play with men's insecurities too...

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

We had makeup thousands of years before capitalism.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

What about penis implants and viagra?

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Those come after. Capitalism is a late 18th century CE creation

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's actually from earlier than that (Locke, Smith later, yes), but it only became unmanageable after we found cheap energy in the industrial revolution, which made the human element mostly trivial.

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Smith wrote in the 18th century. Locke, as I recall, never did much with economics

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Locke "invented" liberalism, which Smith, as a moral philosopher, concretized in practice.

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Yes but Loke solely focused on political rights whereas Adams was concerned with the economy. Locke wasn't involved in capitalism.

[-] 0ops@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

I don't, no, not really. Make up is heavily advertised, and makeup companies have a vested interest in stoking those insecurities to increase their sales. On the dick-size side of things, you have a few surgeons I guess? Some scammy mobile game ads? But the vast, vast majority of people who aren't fuck-it rich just live with it, the only viable market for that shit is other capitalists, which makes me inclined to think that dick-size insecurities are much more organic.

Hypothesis: if we abolish capitalism and make the transition to socialism and communism, people will still be self conscious about their dick-size, because this particular self-consciousness probably pre-dates society itself

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Communism failed horribly, don't put words in my mouth. Conspicuous consumption, planned obsolescence, manufactured demand, etc is taking longer, but it will fail too eventually.

[-] 0ops@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Mutual, I didn't think or mean to imply that you thought communism would solve penis disphoria, you could replace the word "communism" with any other system you like in that sentence, I was just trying to illustrate that the roots of being self-conscious of ones penis size likely have more primal causes than capitalism or any other economic system.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I just look at things like aesthetic plastic surgery and wonder if people used to feel inferior about themselves for things that they could not change (makeup and clothes was easy, so yeah, that has always existed...). Because today you need to keep improving yourself...because you can.

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

We had comparative wealth inequality for thousands to tens of thousands of years before capitalism.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, but you didnt have status anxiety (i.e. if you can become anything you want if you work hard enough, why aren't you ""alpha"" yet?) and the prosperity gospel: "you deserve to be poor because you don't hustle enough at the altar of crapitalism".

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

You absolutely have Calvinism before capitalism which is what the prosperoty gospel is rooted within

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

But in Calvinism you couldn't do anything about it, in the prosperity gospel, it is your fault, because you don't belive enough, so you should try harder.

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