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[-] robocall@lemmy.world 99 points 1 year ago

No nation can call itself civilized that still uses the death penalty.

[-] eusousuperior@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Some crimes are so heinous and intrinsically evil that I believe we as society shouldn't take the burden of keeping those people alive just for the sake of it. I believe that in those very limited cases, death penalty should be allowed.

[-] pgetsos@kbin.social 44 points 1 year ago

The problem is that you will 100% kill innocent people. And there is no way to reverse it later on...

[-] aeternum@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

something like 5% of american executions are of innocent people. Disgusting. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence/innocence-by-the-numbers

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The state always hurts innocent people regardless, so ultimately better to just kill them than to subject them to the horrors of prison and act like that's okay simply because they're alive.

Personally, it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make and I unironically would feel safer from my own government knowing the worst that'll happen is a mere hanging compared to the enslavement, torture and rape, for decades, flung onto innocents in the name of being humane.

[-] aeternum@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

and if it was you who was being executed for something you didn't do?

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I would be grateful it was only a noose and not decades of rape, torture, and enslavement. That's literally why I believe it. Specifically because I don't want to be falsely imprisoned, and if you actually empathized, you'd feel the same way.

[-] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

If it's allowed there will be mistakes, innocent people will be killed.

And it will be abused.

[-] wabafee@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I agree death penality itself has its uses e.g. prosecution of war criminals, rebel leaders, druglords and I think corrupt officials in some cases. It should be applied to those who despite being behind bars would continue to influence outside causing more death or downfall of a nation if they remain alive. Though for this case just for carrying heroine I don't think that should be a death sentence it is just stupid an outdated way of control. Though problem with death sentence sometimes it becomes a hammer and when it becomes a hammer everything becomes a nail. It should only be a last resort.

[-] eusousuperior@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This should only be used for cases where there is 100% of evidence that the person is guilty (eg: tool box killers, Breivik, mass murderers, etc)

[-] blackbirdbiryani@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Except Singapore has used it plenty of times with flimsy evidence.

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