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No nation can call itself civilized that still uses the death penalty.
Well… Singapore is trying to use it for like everything
Edit: for the downvoters, I have a fascinating read for you: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole
No they are not they use it for drug trafficking and murder cases. That doesn't mean I approve of it, I deplore it.
They also jail people for chewing a gum, your argument is invalid.
That's not the death penalty and they didn't make an argument. They were stating a fact.
That was half-joke, half-reminder of how fucked up the country is. But whatever.
IMO as an outsider Singapore is less fucked up than America. It's got some rough edges for sure though lol.
Not sure where you got this from, but this isn't true. Chewing gum is NOT illegal in Singapore; you can keep them for your own consumption. You just cannot sell chewing gum in Singapore.
Yeah they hang you for lollygagging.
They won't be getting my tourist dollars.
Some crimes are so heinous and intrinsically evil that I believe we as society shouldn't take the burden of keeping those people alive just for the sake of it. I believe that in those very limited cases, death penalty should be allowed.
The problem is that you will 100% kill innocent people. And there is no way to reverse it later on...
something like 5% of american executions are of innocent people. Disgusting. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence/innocence-by-the-numbers
The state always hurts innocent people regardless, so ultimately better to just kill them than to subject them to the horrors of prison and act like that's okay simply because they're alive.
Personally, it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make and I unironically would feel safer from my own government knowing the worst that'll happen is a mere hanging compared to the enslavement, torture and rape, for decades, flung onto innocents in the name of being humane.
Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I am willing to make
Yeah, that's how it is on every side of the issue. I'm just honest about it
and if it was you who was being executed for something you didn't do?
I would be grateful it was only a noose and not decades of rape, torture, and enslavement. That's literally why I believe it. Specifically because I don't want to be falsely imprisoned, and if you actually empathized, you'd feel the same way.
If it's allowed there will be mistakes, innocent people will be killed.
And it will be abused.
I agree death penality itself has its uses e.g. prosecution of war criminals, rebel leaders, druglords and I think corrupt officials in some cases. It should be applied to those who despite being behind bars would continue to influence outside causing more death or downfall of a nation if they remain alive. Though for this case just for carrying heroine I don't think that should be a death sentence it is just stupid an outdated way of control. Though problem with death sentence sometimes it becomes a hammer and when it becomes a hammer everything becomes a nail. It should only be a last resort.
This should only be used for cases where there is 100% of evidence that the person is guilty (eg: tool box killers, Breivik, mass murderers, etc)
Except Singapore has used it plenty of times with flimsy evidence.
Most people would rather be hanged than go to prison if they truly knew what was being done behind closed doors in the name of being humane.