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[-] dan00@lemm.ee 53 points 3 months ago

Nooooo guys!!!! Biden genocide was better than Trump genocide! 😡😡 You don’t understand, he said he was trying not bomb children!!! 😢

[-] Franklin@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean it is though, at least from a numbers perspective.

Neither should happen but since i don't get that choice, I choose the option that saves millions of lives.

Not to mention the US is now party to the Ukraine genocide too.

not to mention the real threat to foreign born citizens and LGBTQ people in the United States itself.

So yes Biden is better even if we are dealing with shades of black

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 46 points 3 months ago

This is also false. Biden drastically upped the military aid to Israel after Trump left office.

The US democrats are a vicious, genocidal party.

[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

We need a party that is actually anti-oppression and doesn't just pay it lip service.

[-] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

he isn't even lip service, never once has he acknowldged there being a genocide in Gaza

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Its also one we have a better chance to influence. What serious organization for progressives is there?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 months ago

You had a zero percent chance of influencing the Democrats, as evidenced by over a year of complete failure to do so. So no, you didn't have a better chance to influence them

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

What serious organization for progressives is there?

If you don't have an answer for this you are just trolling and not serious about any matter.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago

You can't answer it either, lol, that's why you've been reduced to pretending you can influence the Dems when you've conclusively demonstrated that you can't.

But that makes sense, given that you admitted to being a troll.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

You can’t answer it either, lol, that’s why you’ve been reduced to pretending you can influence the Dems when you’ve conclusively demonstrated that you can’t.

I did answer it and you are making fun of my answer right there. Fair enough, but I have asked you what your ideas are, and all you can say is to twiddle your thumbs.

Voting dem and making it more progressive is an actionable item. What is your alternative that is so much better?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago

I did answer it and you are making fun of my answer right there

Oh? What is this "serious organization for progressives"?

Voting dem and making it more progressive is an actionable item. What is your alternative that is so much better?

LOL! You were talking about the Democrats as a "serious organization for progressives"! BAHAHAHA. OK. Then I'll propose the The Alliance of Magicians - there are more serious answer than yours after all.

Voting dem and making it more progressive is an actionable item.

Picking your nose and eating it is also an actionable item, and it accomplishes just as much. More even, in that you're not lying to yourself that you're actually doing anything.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

What is this “serious organization for progressives”?

As serious as we have in the US. Do we have any DSA in congress? State? Local? So tell me where is our political organization?

Picking your nose and eating it is also an actionable item, and it accomplishes just as much. More even, in that you’re not lying to yourself that you’re actually doing anything.

So what is your proposed action items? You use a lot of words to no say anything useful. Unless you are trolling.

*Psst that italics above is me being serious. What is your position? I am curious if you have anything worth understanding. *

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As serious as we have in the US. Do we have any DSA in congress? State? Local? So tell me where is our political organization?

LOOOOOL.

Well Republicans have even more power than the Democrats, so I guess they must be an even more serious organization for progressives!

So what is your proposed action items?

Picking your nose and eating it. Still better than your proposed action items, after all.

*Psst that italics above is me being serious. What is your position? I am curious if you have anything worth understanding. *

No it isn't, we've been over this.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Well Republicans have even more power than the Democrats, so I guess they must be an even more serious organization for progressives!

Not for progressives, but single issue voters have shaped it.

Picking your nose and eating it. Still better than your proposed action items, after all.

So do you want productive chat and ideas or are you just going to keep trolling?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

Not for progressives, but single issue voters have shaped it.

It's as much for progressives as the Democrats are. Your only condition for "Serious organisation for progressives" was that they be powerful. And the republicans are even more powerful.

So do you want productive chat and ideas or are you just going to keep trolling?

Loooool. Stalk my comments some more, maybe I'll take you more seriously. Besides, my ideas are still better than yours.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Democrats are retaliating against David Hogg as a direct result of his serious organization to primary shitlibs.

[-] dan00@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It’s okay, we got it. You supported genocide and now you are trying to justify it so you can sleep at night.

The only true unserious people here are those who defend a genocidal monster even when the monster literally confessed to be one.

Have a shower.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Its also one we have a better chance to influence.

What fucking garbage. democrats only listen to republicans and netanyahu.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You did not have to preface it with pretending to save anyone. You simply care only about yourself and you do not care about anyone else.

[-] jellygoose@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago

What the actual fuck ? Unhinged

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

❌ Please try again

[-] Emotional 1 points 3 months ago

As an immigrant, I'll say this as politely as I can: fuck you. I really wish skidmarks like you would stop trying to risk my life to gain brownie points with their tankie friends.

[-] dan00@lemm.ee 18 points 3 months ago

Okay, but then if we point our finger at your face and call you a genocide supporter, you shut up and take it right?! Right?

[-] Franklin@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

no i wouldn't because i don't support it and your inability to see shades of gray will paint darker and darker paths

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

'I don't support it but I directly cast my vote for the people responsible'.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

When people start talking about "shades of gray" with regards to genocide, they 100% support genocide

[-] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago

and your abstinence vote 200% supports genocide, you not only gave your vote away to trump, but you actively sabotaged the dems chances

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 months ago

You have no idea how I voted, or if I live in a swing state, or if I'm even eligible to vote, so shut your presumptuous mouth. More to the point, only a BlueMaga lunatic could try to claim that not voting for genocide supports genocide twice as much as voting for genocide. Like, you don't actually believe in anything, not even the meaning of words; you'll just say whatever you can to confuse and antagonize.

[-] dan00@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

I refuse to believe these people are real and in good faith. One of the two thing must be wrong. You can not be this stupid.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago

People are very good at reasoning backwards from the conclusion they already wanted to be at.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

You have no idea how I voted, or if I live in a swing state, or if I’m even eligible to vote, so shut your presumptuous mouth.

centrists don't care how you vote. If you're to their left on the only issue any of them care about, everything is your fault.

[-] dan00@lemm.ee 13 points 3 months ago

Ahahah sure brother sure. Keep saying this to yourself.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

I mean it is though, at least from a numbers perspective.

And which numbers are those? Oh, you meant vibes.

[-] djsoren19 11 points 3 months ago

Except now Trump is starting to play hardball with Netanyahu, and is distinctly unhappy with the the U.S. taking so much flak while being treated as a money fountain.

There is a much more real world where Trump gets sick of Bibi and pulls his support than Harris pulling support from Israel. A fully isolationist U.S. is better for Palestine.

[-] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Imagine portraying trump as anything but dementiaed. You know he posts a about razing all of gaza to the ground to build a resort, right?

[-] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago

this is just right wing trolling at this point

[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

I know I'll get downvoted for this, and to be clear, all of our governments supporting this genocide are absolute bullshit and capitalism is bullshit.

However, at least you had one choice that wasn't actively also trying to destroy your own country and take away the rights of people in your own country to such an extent that they now can't even worry about what's happening elsewhere because they're too worried trying to find healthcare and not get deported, killed, or permanently detained.

If you were going to not vote in order to take down the system, then show up and take down the god damn fucking system.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 months ago

However, at least you had one choice that wasn’t actively also trying to destroy your own country

When a normal, moral person discover that a country is hellbent on genocide, they would think that destroying that country is a good thing.

take away the rights of people in your own country

The genocide in the colonies must continue for the benefit of the people in the capital.

they now can’t even worry about what’s happening elsewhere

So you were worrying before? Certainly didn't accomplish anything.

[-] dan00@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

Thank you, no need for me to add anything

[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

~~"I'll get downvoted for this but..." Says the most valid take ever~~

Nevermind

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 months ago

The valid take of "yes the people I support are committing the worst acts imaginable to mankind, but I stand to personally benefit, so it's actually good to support them."

[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

~~You made me think I supported someone who was against Palestine, he literally does not say that, you only infer that just because he isn't fully anti-democrat and is using the 'lesser evil' arguement~~

Oh the thinks Palestine/Hamas will destroy Israel nevermind

[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Where the fuck did I say Palestine would destroy Israel?

I am 100% pro-Palestine, I just genuinely do not understand how voting someone in who has exponentially sped up the genocide and sped up the suffering of brown, queer people and women, in his own country is somehow the more moral choice in all of this. It doesn't make any fucking sense to me.

[-] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 2 points 3 months ago

Let me give you this dilemma, given the imperial nature of the US and that you need an overhaul of the system, isn't trump the perfect candidate to vote to do just that?

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