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[-] vivendi@programming.dev 38 points 2 days ago

No the fuck it's not

I'm a pretty big proponent of FOSS AI, but none of the models I've ever used are good enough to work without a human treating it like a tool to automate small tasks. In my workflow there is no difference between LLMs and fucking grep for me.

People who think AI codes well are shit at their job

[-] V0ldek@awful.systems 29 points 2 days ago

In my workflow there is no difference between LLMs and fucking grep for me.

Well grep doesn't hallucinate things that are not actually in the logs I'm grepping so I think I'll stick to grep.

(Or ripgrep rather)

[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

With grep it’s me who hallucinates that I can right good regex :,)

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago

(I don't mean to take aim at you with this despite how irked it'll sound)

I really fucking hate how many computer types go "ugh I can't" at regex. the full spectrum of it, sure, gets hairy. but so many people could be well served by decently learning grouping/backrefs/greedy match/char-classes (which is a lot of what most people seem to reach for[0])

that said, pomsky is an interesting thing that might in fact help a lot of people go from "I want $x" as a human expression of intent, to "I have $y" as a regex expression

[0] - yeah okay sometimes you also actually need a parser. that's a whole other conversation. I'm talking about "quickly hacking shit up in a text editor buffer in 30s" type cases here

[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The funny thing is, I’m just going with the joke, I’m actually pretty good with regex lol

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

woo! but still also check out pomsky, it's legit handy!

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

(also I did my disclaimer at the start there, so, y'know (but also igwym))

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hey. I can do regex. It's specifically grep I have beef with. I never know off the top of my head how to invoke it. Is it -e? -r? -i? man grep? More like, man, get grep the hell outta here!

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago

now listen, you might think gnu tools are offensively inconsistent, and to that I can only say

find(1)

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 12 points 1 day ago

find(1)? You better find(1) some other place to be, buster. In this house, we use the file explorer search bar

[-] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago
[-] swlabr@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

If I start using this and add grep functionality to my day-to-day life, I can’t complain about not knowing how to invoke grep in good conscience, dawg. I can’t hold my shitposting back like that, dawg!

jk that looks useful. Thanks!

[-] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

The cheatsheet and tealdeer projects are awesome. It's one of my (many) favorite things about the user experience honestly. Really grateful for those projects

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

No the fuck it's not

Because it's a upscaled translation tech maybe?

[-] vivendi@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

These views on LLMs are simplistic. As a wise man once said, "check yoself befo yo wreck yoself", I recommend more education thus

LLM structures arw over hyped, but they're also not that simple

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Yes you're right, it has some keyboard equivalent autocomplete as well.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

From what i know from recent articles about retracing LLM indepth, they are indeed best suited for language translation and perfectly explain the halucinations. And i think i've read somewhere that this was the originally intended purpose of the tech?

Ah, here, and here more tabloid-ish.

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

many of the proponents of things in this field will propose/argue $x thing to be massively valuable for $x

thing is, that doesn't often work out

yes, there's some value in the tech for translation outcomes. to anyone even mildly online, "so are language teaching apps/sites using this?" is probably a very nearby question. and rightly so!

and then when you go digging into how that's going in practice, wow fuck damn doesn't that Glorious AI Future sheen just fall right off...

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