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Look… I hate Musk as much as anyone. But SpaceX contracts are not the same as NPR grants.
Yep, and comparing expenditures that differ in orders of magnitude is also complicated. Why is it even worth to cut the lower one when minor changes to the big one have a bigger gain.
The issue is most cuts being deeply political in nature. In my mind these posts only shift the narrative.
Hopefully, you don't mind coming across as a "bootlicker".
NPR shouldn't be losing anything, is the point.
I couldn’t mind less. A sad little ad hominem like that from someone stupid enough to see it that way is no skin off my nose.
Nor should PBS
Dude isn't an American, he didn't didn't grow up with PBS- he's not from here, he definitely doesn't understand the cultural significance of PBS in the United States.
this is all stuff that nasa would do for cheaper instead, if they got the contracts instead.
cheaper because you wouldnt have to finance making him rich
You know NASA uses all kinds of private contractors too, right? Which means they are paying the “make someone rich” tax as well, just not to Musk.
That means we fix the loopholes and find a streamlined way to reach efficiency. It doesn't mean we exploit the system because "well they do it too" while continuing to complain the system sucks. No, we actually fix the standing problems within our systems. Thats what should happen.
Tax the fucking rich.
Of course I agree but I don’t know how we got here from saying that NPR grants have nothing to do with aerospace contracting.
...no? my source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_launch_market_competition#2010-2020s:_Competition_and_pricing_pressure and scroll down a bit to the chart with launch costs
the space shuttle sucked
The space shuttle was a mistake, but that is a laughably disingenuous route to claim that NASA couldn't be doing these things for cheaper than private companies. Saturn V rocket launches were cheaper than space shuttle launches.
yeah but the falcon 9 and heavy are the cheapest ever compared to everything
I hate musk, don't misunderstand me, but spaceX has done some incredible things with rocket reusability
I mean, we should be able to hate Elon Musk while still respect the fact that, SpaceX as a company has done incredible things.
You say NASA could've done it for cheaper, but their track record is not great. Apollo program, historical, but was very expensive. Then the Space Shuttle, then the SLS, they are all extremely expensive compared to, not just Falcon 9, but also Russia or China's offerings.
I hate Musk but I am also passionate about space... So yeah, I don't know how to process this. Maybe it's fine for people to just believe SpaceX did nothing good as long as that gets more people to hate Musk... I really don't know (help me)
NASA is a government program, Space X is private enterprise first of all. And what exactly has incredible things has space Space X actually done?
One got us to the moon and back.
One has contributed an amazing amount of information about the universe to us.
One has made it cheaper by recycling rockets, which is not something amazing but largely driven by private enterprise wanting to create a service to gain a profit and return for investors.
They're both chalk and cheese. NASA doesn't have to do it for cheaper because they're not about making profits. They're not a company.
A better comparison would be to compare Space X to that other space company by that other billionaire.