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In 2025, the federal minimum wage is officially a “poverty wage.” The annual earnings of a single adult working full-time, year-round at $7.25 an hour now fall below the poverty threshold of $15,650 (established by the Department of Health and Human Services guidelines). The limitations of how the federal government calculates poverty understate how far the minimum wage is from economic security for workers and their families.

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With most states having their own minimum wages higher than the federal one, how relevant is this really?

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago

I would like to introduce you to the two million people living in Idaho. Federal minimum wage and the state prevents counties or cities from setting a minimum wage different from the state's.

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I was wondering why so many companies were moving into Idaho. That explains it.

[-] imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago
[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

Yeah it's bleak there for a lot of reasons. Fun fact Idaho potatoes involve a lot of prison labor

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Should be Skibidi Idaho

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 week ago
  1. A state can just repeal their own minimum wage
  2. The existence of states using the federal minimum wage means it matters to the people who live in those states
  3. Poverty anywhere indicates the possibility of poverty everywhere. Being somewhere "without poverty" does not make you safe from poverty. It just means you are less proximate to poverty for now
[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

A lot of those states with higher minimum wage also have a higher cost of living, though, so it's not all cut and dry.

[-] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nowhere in the country can you afford rent on minimum wage. Not in cities, not in small towns, not in bum fuck nowheresville cheapest red state with no single public services .

[-] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago

20 states, or 40% of the country, do NOT have higher minimum wages than federal. That seems pretty relevant, especially since a stagnant minimum wage is what's keeping your own higher than minimum pay suppressed.

You're right about how many states have minimum wage either explicitly set to 7.25 or lower, or tracking the federal minimum wage (including Georgia, with a state minimum wage of 5.50). I assumed there were fewer of those states, because the number of workers that are being paid the minimum wage (or lower) is 1.1% and dropping.

I guess the question I was trying to allude to is: with fewer and fewer people being paid the minimum wage, and with such enormous disparity between cost of living within a state let alone between states, does it really matter that the federal minimum wage is below the poverty line? There are places in the US where you can live decently on 7.25/hr, and there are places where you would feel squeezed even at 40/hr. National metrics like this one are interesting but not really representative

[-] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

There's not a single place in the US where you can "live decently" on 7.25/ hr.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Thank you for the response from the Democratic Party.

Fuck workers in red states. They deserve it for being outnumbered.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is a few years old but gives a lot of reasons, plus clarified it would help a lot if people

Even If you’re trying to be coldly logical, ignoring the health and wellbeing of those millions of people and their children …. Take a look at the section near the end about how much states pay in poverty assistance to people making near minimum wage. This is effectively a subsidy for those businesses paying low wages. Why should state governments be subsidizing those companies? A higher minimum wage means more people can support themselves and the government pays less to support them, less to subsidize those conpanies

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