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[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 73 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Some many in these comments are like "what about the ethical source data ones?"

Which ones? Name one.

None of the big ones are. Wtf is ethically sourced? E.g. Ebay wants to collect data for ai shit. My mom has an account, and she could opt out of them using her data but when I told her about it, she told me that she didn't understand. And she moved on. She just didn't understand what the fuck they are doing and why she might should care. But I guess it is "ethically" sourced as they kinda asked by making it opt out, I guess.

That surely is very ethical and you can not critic it for it... As we all know, an 50yo adult fucking a 14yo would also be totally cool as long as the 14yo doesn't say no. Right? That is how our moral compass work. /S

Fucking disgusting. All of you tech bro complain about people not getting ai or tech in general and then talk about ethically sourced data. I spit on you.

I love IT, I work in it and I live it, but I have morals and you could too

Edit: after a bunch of messages telling me that I am wrong. I wonder when they will realize that they are making my point. I am saying that it isn't ethically sourced without consent and uninformed consent isn't consent. And they are tell me, an it professional with an interest in how machine learning functions ever since alphago and 7 years before the ai hype, that I don't understand it. If I don't understand it, what makes you believe the general public understands and can consent to it. If I am wrong about ai, I am wrong about ai but I am not wrong about the unethical nature of that data, people don't understand it.

[-] JennyLaFae 2 points 1 week ago

One ethical AI usage I've heard was a few artists who take an untrained bot and train it on only their own artwork

[-] BoulevardBlvd 3 points 1 week ago

What's an "untrained bot"? Did they code it from scratch themselves? I find it almost impossible to believe it wasn't just a fork of an existing, unethical project but I'd love more detail

[-] JennyLaFae 2 points 1 week ago

I remember they said they bought it and explained how they used it to increase their own productivity and how being trained on other artwork was a detriment because it wouldn't generate in their style. Probably was a fork of an unethical project lol

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