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I got to say this is pretty cringe. A good mix of millennial and militant atheist humor. Spending that much time making that needlepoint is serious commitment haha
Edit: I apologize that my comment comes across as rude to OP. I was debating commenting it and thought my comment was more on the type of humor but I don’t want to make anyone feel bad.
Not a fan of militant(!) atheists but I also shouldn’t be rude.
There’s nothing atheistic about valuing evidence.
But there’s no place for theism if you value evidence
Sure there is. You can value evidence without requiring it for everything you believe. There’s no place for anything if you require evidence for everything. For example there’s no way to prove you are or aren’t just a brain in a jar. You can say “I think therefore I am”, but that doesn’t prove you are what you think you are.
Science accounts for this by saying we should adopt the simplest and most probable explanations, but what is “probable” starts to become hard to define in an infinitely expanding universe or multiverse.
The premise of any scenario we imagine or hypothesize can always be questioned. “God” is philosophically the circular logic that forms the basis for everything built on top of it. “God” is the “I am” that requires no justification or explanation (even if there might be one). “God” is the name people give to the “it is what it is” feeling that we fall back on when we start driving ourselves crazy thinking about free will or other seemingly paradoxical aspects of our observed reality.
Why are religious apologists always throwing gobbledygook around and acting like it’s logic?
Why is everything a religious apologist shows as explaining how the religion “really works” actually has nothing to do with what the religions preach?
(Spoiler: it’s an impossible position to defend)
Christians don’t teach people that they are god.
What religion works the way you described?
None of them. Yikes.
“God” is what idiots claim is behind everything good but not bad.
It’s inane. Quit pretending otherwise it’s disingenuous and illogical on top of it.
Religious people are superstitious fools. They cannot be trusted. They will be orthodox when it suits them and drop all the rules when it suits them.
Because it’s made up bullshit yo be used as a weapon against other people and deep down they know it’s phony. Which is why they drop all belief when they want to.
What exactly did I say that was gobbledygook?
Nothing I said defends or supports organized religion.
Correct. Christianity teaches people that “God” created everything and that they are children of “God”. AKA that “God” is the fundamental force in the universe.
Pretty much all of them do…
Most religions argue that “God” is behind everything, the good and the bad. The Christian Bible specifically calls this out
“ISAIAH 45: 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.”
What’s inane?
It sounds like you’ve let your valid criticism of hypocritical religious people prevent you from distinguishing “organized religion” from “belief.”
Anyone who “believes” in things that are not provable cannot be trusted.
“Belief” is mental illness
From my perspective trust is all about belief. If something can be proven then there is no need for trust.
Can you prove free will exists?
Let’s say you believe people have free will and you loan a friend $60 for a game.
Your friend says they’ll pay you back. You can’t prove that they’ll pay you back because we’re operating under the assumption that they have free will so they could very realistically choose not to.
Do you think your trust in your friend a mental illness? Because I think the majority of people feel that trusting your friends is a sign of good mental and emotional health.
There’s that gobbledygook
Can you prove there’s not a teapot floating between mars and Jupiter? That doesn’t matter. It has nothing to do with what I’m talking about.
Let’s say for example free will doesn’t exist and a god named billy the nose picker created us to do exactly what we do all under the illusion of free will.
Does it make argument that “belief” in Billy the nose picker is the sign of a deranged person any weaker?
NO!
Without free will we’re doing what we should so EVERY QUESTION IS MOOT
Take that gobbledygook diversion tactic out of here it’s baloney moon man talk.
Gobbledygook. Like a youth pastor. Or any religious leader when a child asks a question so dangerous that even considering it would shatter your faith, free will or not.
GOBBLEDYGOOK
When did Radical ever say religion teaches people that they are God? That's a claim you made.
wut
It’s the infinite monkeys, infinite typewriters, infinite time problem. Given an infinite number of universes anything that can happen statistically will happen.
This video explains it in relation to entropy https://youtu.be/nhy4Z_32kQo
Based
I fully agree but this is clearly a play on a passage from the Bible so I understood it as I described
Correct but wording it as an altered Bible quote implies the evidence is against God when truth it is far more neutral
Nah this is funny af. Fuck religion.
Found the rude atheist
Uh oh someone is upset
Sadly Lemmy suffers from a R/Atheism infection
I very much find that true as well. Thanks for backing me up pal :)
Anti-Theism is a cult that believes all of the world's problems can be accurately blamed on the existence of specifically Abrahamic religions. (Seriously where are all the Angry Ex-Buddhists saying "It's all bullshit!". Reminds me I read the article on Buddhism on Rational Wiki... I don't know if they updated it but they basically said it was atheism with extra steps which is.. revisionist at worst and an over simplification at best)
It pretends to be the position of having no religion. A deception.
I know plenty of REAL Atheists. You know what they have to say about God? Not a damn thing because it's not actually relevant to them.
Sorry Edgelords but it's not 2002 anymore where calling God a delusion is your fast pass to cool.
And no I'm not Christian but I've had the accusation thrown my way. For the record I'm agnostic with a Buddhist leaning.
I think this tracks very well. Thanks for writing it out. That also brings out the term a-theism is anti-god not anti-religion. They hate Christianity therefore they project onto all religions as harmful which is simply nonsense. As a scholar of religion it is impossible to deal with these people.
This is how the majority of online atheists come off honestly.
It's just a joke. Let's not make it more than that.
Don’t mean to make it more than anything. Just thought someone going to the trouble making this is cringey. Not an attack on you!
Edit: You’re right. I’m sorry for making you feel bad.
I gotta disagree with you on this one; I'm a huge fan of what I call "high effort shitposts". I think the effort is charmingly absurdist
Fair, it is high effort
I completely agree
Thank you! That means a lot since some were mean.