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A court has demanded the Trump admin return this man, and their defense has been that they don't have the power to do it. Now they publicly criticize a Senator for trying to get the man returned.
They really are stupid when it comes to undermining their own case, aren't they?
No, they are not. It's a mistake to think of them as stupid, as that leads to underestimating the threat they pose.
They don't care about winning this case in the conventional sense. Trump and his allies couldn't care less what happens to Kilmar Abrego Garcia; what they're after is the power to exile or imprison people without due process of law.
To be fair, Trump really is pretty stupid. His handlers aren't.
A lot of his handlers are also stupid, especially this term. Some of them aren't, so there's still a chance of a coherent plan coming through, but most of the time it's just stupidity.
No, there absolutely is a coherent plan, it's just that part of that plan is to create chaos and the appearance of incoherence. We absolutely should keep that straight.
It's also true that Trump's orbit contains a lot of other useful idiots, but they are hangers-on, not who I would consider to be his handlers.
Of course it does take a certain kind of idiot to ever embrace fascism, but we can't mistake that for incompetence.
They are stupid. It's required for fascism to fascist.
It's because they are stupid it makes them dangerous. They will say "NO I AM RIGHT!" when the obvious answer sits in front of them.
They JUST DON'T CARE.
Don't give them credit for a "well thought our plan." This regime will destroy itself, with or without resistance. Look at Putin's Russia. When he dies, there will be a massive power struggle and no one knows what the fuck will happen.
We have far more to fear from stupid people than we do from evil people- Dietrich Bonhoeffer https://bigthink.com/thinking/bonhoeffers-theory-stupidity-evil/
They don’t want this guy to be free and doing a press tour about his experience.
Can't release a dead body.
No. They don't care about "making a case". They don't have to. They don't care if what they say is wrong or ridiculous--note how they were smirking as they said all the fake excuses in their press conference. They know they're stupid fake excuses and they know everyone else knows it. They don't care. They're having a blast. They're flaunting their power and daring anyone to try and stop them.
Do they ever care? Just keep gaslighting.
The news can never catch up to all the atrocities happening simultaneously.
SCOTUS didn't order his return. The ruling was that this is a foreign policy matter at this point and the executive branch has foreign policy power, not the court. SCOTUS rule that the Trump administration has to facilitate his return. Trump is willing to facilitate his return, but El Salvador said no, and that is the end of discussion for this matter.
Anyway, it would be ridiculously weird for El Salvador to send their own citizen to the US who initiated came to the US illegally.
There's mischaracterisations, and then there's just flat-out lies. You're telling the latter.
(also, the sheer fucking irony of naming yourself "libertyforever" while cheerleading a system of life imprisonment without trial)
The whole reason you put concentration camps in a foreign nation is to remove them from SCOTUS jurisdiction. Then you get to sit back and say, "We can't compel a sovereign state," while the sovereign state gets to sit back and say, "We'd gladly return these people, if only POTUS would ask." Just one capo doing a favor for a fellow capo, somehow neither one of them able to do the right thing.
You want to talk about concentration camps? We're already expanding our own Black Site.
America has the highest incarceration rate in the world. The average maximum security prison holds 800-1200 prisoners. The largest, Angola, LA, holds over 8000.
Our most famous black site, Guantanamo Bay, located in CUBA (WTF?), currently holds about 120. They are now building a facility there, that will hold 30,000 prisoners. That's nearly 4 times our largest prison, which is already about 8 times larger than average.
The question is: Who do they intend to put in that new facility, which is far from any oversight by the media or the courts. It's in fucking Cuba, which is controlled by...well, you get it.
Gitmo is expensive, like $10M/prisoner/year expensive, and still at least nominally subject to US laws, though watered down by being a military facility. Outsourcing to El Salvador gets them massive cost savings and complete liberation from judicial oversight. They may still work on Gitmo, but I expect El Salvador to be the go-to camp now. Discount Gitmo. All they have to do is get you there - get you in the air to there - and you become a stateless, rights-less slave.
I suspect Gitmo will be reserved for the high profile prisoners that would cause too much outcry - celebrities, elected politicians, wealthy resistors, etc. The ones they don't care about will go to El Salvador.
Do you think he's gonna reward you if you lick his boots hard enough?
I'm amazed at how confidently wrong you are. Did you bother to read any of this yourself?