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Researchers have predicted the collapse of the AMOC could happen any time between 2025 and 2095 — far sooner than previous predictions, although not all scientists are convinced.

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[-] starship_lizard@programming.dev 196 points 1 year ago

I'm so tired of living in a world of impending doom. This is hell.

[-] Enigma@sh.itjust.works 67 points 1 year ago

The phrase “may you live in interesting times” is a curse.

[-] tinwhiskers@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

"Despite being so common in English as to be known as the "Chinese curse", the saying is apocryphal, and no actual Chinese source has ever been produced." - Wikipedia

[-] Enigma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Oh is this a thing? The phrase has been on my mind lately and I’m like no, it’s a fucking curse. Thanks for the trivia!!

[-] Zerfallen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The whole point of that phrase is that it's a curse.

[-] Enigma@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the info! I’ve only ever heard it said in a positive way.

[-] Exec@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago

"Exciting times, kiddo"

[-] Saneless@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago

And they know how to fucking fix it but don't want to

It'd be like if in the movie Armageddon the government just said "Eh let's see if it really will be that bad if it hits us"

[-] 1bluepixel@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago
[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 20 points 1 year ago

That movie felt way too real watching it.

[-] Saneless@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yes but without the part where they tried

[-] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

We haven't gotten to that point yet

[-] arefx@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Without some sort of violent revolution, we won't, or time runs out but it's not a movie and there's no ship to another planet.

[-] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Great. That's exactly what we need now - more violence

[-] Saneless@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Revolutions take over where reason stops. The people in power have the means to do the right thing, but sometimes they look out for a few people and will destroy thousands. That's not a good option, as people get more desperate

[-] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Climate change is not something that has a simple solution to it and governments just refuse to do so for whatever reason. That's a naive view that ignores all the complexity of this issue.

For example: stopping all carbon emissions is not going to stop climate change. Not only do you need to become carbon-neutral but you also need to get all the excessive carbon out of the atmosphere. How?

[-] Saneless@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Why the extreme? Cutting back and investing in things that are better should be a mandate, not an idea or option. And certainly we cannot allow an administration to roll things backwards just because someone ~~bribed them~~ donated to their campaign

[-] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

If there's ever a time when it's justified, it's when our very existence is at stake.

[-] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Climate change is not an existential threat to humanity

[-] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

To humanity? Probably not. To billions of people? Definitely yes.

[-] electromage@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

This is because you're not sorting your recycling!

[-] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

"We could do something about the asteroid, but think of the harm doing something could do to the shareholders!?"

[-] Saneless@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I was going to save humanity but I have a responsibility to a handful of shareholders that yell at me in meetings so... You can really see how hard this is for me

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Carbon is causing global warming. We know how to fix global warming because we are causing it, we just have to stop doing it.

This article is about global cooling which is bizarre and not something we expected would be happening. We haven't got a clue why it's doing that. It maybe natural, or it maybe it's something we've done in a complicated way, but we don't know so we don't know how to fix it.

If this is just an ice age why may as well burn all the coal now to try and stave it off.

Although in reality I think this needs a lot more research before we do anything because this announcement makes no sense within our current understanding of the environmental science.

[-] xohshoo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Umm, no. Go read it again.

Global warming shuts off the current, so the warm air doesn’t shuttle north, causing local cooling, not global

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It's actually kind of too late now.

But, we may be able to prevent more bad stuff happening if we change things today!

[-] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago

IDK, I mean we know it's to do with carbon but we don't really know how to stop producing that in a timely manner.

[-] TwistedTurtle@monero.town 7 points 1 year ago

Yes we do. Carbon tax.

[-] Xtallll 57 points 1 year ago

Good news! Soon the doom won't be impending!

[-] ikiru@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

Have you tried being absurdly wealthy?

I haven't myself, but I hear it makes it all worth it.

[-] brcl@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

It’s on my to-do list.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I just long for a time when the conspiracy theorists are yelling about the end of the world and the scientists are running the country, not the other way around.

[-] nexusband@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The doom depends on where you live. Florida? Yup, probably, but you where already living in hell. Europe? Iced up North Sea, really snowy north, big ice caps, Spain and portugal getting more cool...doesn't sound that bad, to me personally.

[-] Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

What? I moved to the nordics so that I'd be living in a tropical paradise soon, now there's going to be more snow?

[-] dingus@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Michigan's Upper Peninsula is one of the places least likely to be affected by climate change, based on current models. In the US anyway.

[-] nexusband@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Mostly florida, as the "AMOC" transports the heat away from florida. Could very well be, that a stoppage of the AMOC would create a Hypercane and completely wreck everything in Florida. Cuba could also be absolutely done for. Canada would also probably have a LOT more snow - the Soutpole however would probably stop existing and what exactly is going to happen to Brazil is a complete unknown. Some simulations show the insta death of the rest of the rain forest. Some simulations actually show the opposite. However, Europe, Africa and Asia probably would see a lot lower temps - what exactly that would mean for the Climate in those areas is also highly speculative - however, it's something that happened quite often throughout the history of earth. North America however has lots of other parts liveable, when Florida is "dead" and basically the Sahara.

[-] NecessaryWeevil@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

Happened quite often in the past…over the course of thousands of years. Man-made global warming is a very different animal.

[-] nexusband@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No, the collapse of the AMOC was pretty rapid in the past as well. And it's separate from climate change. Man-made global warming is very complex and there are various things contributing to it.

[-] NecessaryWeevil@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

Clearly a coincidence.

[-] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

You are the first person I've seen recognize the legitimate fear that these climate issues could result in hypercanes.

Hurricanes of a size and fury as to not be measurable on current scale, Whose devastation could stretch across half a continent.

[-] girthero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Whose devastation could stretch across half a continent.

Thats one way to stop carbon emissions!

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