As much as I dislike the Chinese Autocratig Regime, if they're right, then they're right.
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China is still actively committing genocide against the Uyghurs so I’d would definitely not say the last one
Guys guys, settle down. Two countries can be horrible dictatorships which don't care about it's citizens human rights. It doesn't need to be a contest. Both of you have a popsicle and go play on the swings.
That's a bingo!
Buddy I didn’t deny anything about how our own government is actively an authoritarian regime or any of the shitty things it is doing. But we still are not at People’s Republic of China (PRC) levels yet. We do not actively censor the media on the same level as PRC where even the slightest hint of disapproval is enough to be disappeared, yes though the waters are being tested here. For now we still have elections on the state level that can mean something since more than one party can run. We are still allowed to protest here without just being shot on sight. We have an uncensored internet for the time being so I do think it is fair to say we are not as bad as the PRC.
The sacred rituals of Western civilization-- the election and the press-- were long ago subsumed by capital. You don't need to formally censor when the oligarchs own the media and will skew the messaging to serve their interest. You don't need to have a single party state when the Overton window has been dragged so far right that no electoral outcome can actually oust billionaire rule.
At least, in that context, we can ask who censorship serves? Is it about social cohesion and stability, or preserving the privilege of a handful of people?
In regard to China, it serves a handful of people. Specifically those Party members which less than 3% of the population and have enriched themselves and their families to create a perpetual ruler class at the expense of the other 1 billion.
I ain’t goddamn pointing fingers, just merely highlighting the goddamn difference in the shittiness of the two. Why the fuck can’t you get it through your thick ass skull that I agree on the larger point but though it was a bad move to say we are worse than a nation which has been doing ethnic cleansing and genocide for literal decades?
Not everything is a black and white, agree or disagree. Maybe just maybe there are shades of gray where you can agree but not wholeheartedly agree. You do more damage to your own side by arguing with people who agree with you when you do this.
That's not what that phrase means
Yeah but we’re actively genociding our own people and other countries peoples.
We’re technically even shittier
China is also supporting genocide abroad, they are helping prop up Putin’s war in Ukraine. Which Russia is kidnapping children to “reeducate them and give them proper parents” while slaughtering civilians. China is also a one party state and brutally suppresses any attempt at a protest. Their interest and their media are highly censored and any mention of criticizing the state can get you disappeared or sent to a “reeducation camp”.
I’m not dismissing the shitty things we have done and are doing. Nor am I denying we are actively flying towards the competitive authoritarianism that China has. But as of right now we are not as bad as China is.
Israel/Palestine
“China is also supporting genocide abroad, they are helping prop up Putin’s war in Ukraine.”
I understand that, my point on that was China is doing the same thing. And again not dismissing the things we are doing.
Russia/Ukraine is a state vs state territorial conflict involving genocide with most of the Western world in support of Ukraine.
Israel/Gaza is an occupation with six times the civilian death toll, involving widespread systemic destruction of infrastructure, forced displacement, inaccessibility to healthcare and starvation.
While both are genocides, the imbalance is particularly horrific in the latter. The Russians seem to have a preference for abducting children and placing them in "Russification" camps to erase their heritage while Israel simple kills Gazan children in cold blood.
This is not an apples to apples comparison and I think many would consider the US looks worse, in this particular comparison, than China.
The US has dropped over 40 bombs a day for the last 20 years. China hasn't dropped a bomb in decades.
We are supporting the Russian genocide of Ukraine also, so…..
We’re technically shittier than them.
Did you even read the first line properly?
I doubt it
I don’t think any one supports persecution of the Uighur people, nor the Tibetan people, nor laying claim to Taiwan. It should be taken in the context of those that America persecutes. Currently that’s Palestinians, to an extent Venezuelans, and likely soon to be Ukrainians.
America did terrible things but seemed to want to be better. Now it is just doing terrible things and many revel in the evil.
And the constant warmongering in the middle east.
The U.S. was never good.