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[-] erin 2 points 3 days ago

Was Disney a Nazi? I know he wasn't a good person, but I hadn't heard that. Is there any further reading you could link me? A cursory search didn't find much other than the fact that he seems totally cool working with anti-semites, which isn't really the same thing. If he was, I'd like to know, and if not, we should be more precise with our language so when we call out people like Elon it means something.

[-] petrol_sniff_king 10 points 3 days ago

we should be more precise with our language

I swear this exact phrase is an FBI plot to get people to doubt everything they see and hear.

"That school shooter was a nazi" "Well, we ought to be careful when saying things like that."
"Elon Musk is a nazi." "And what has he done exactly? You know, it's important to be precise. The story of the boy who cried wolf is that ..."
"Hitler was a nazi." "Well, he was in charge of the nazis. Specificity is really important when handling delicate matters like these, you know."

Not to pick on you specifically, but I am so fucking tired of hearing it.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

I swear the over use of the term nazi is what got us to this place where people don't believe Musk is one after doing two sieg heils during the inauguration.

Criticizing the term's over use is not the same as denying their existence or horribleness.

[-] petrol_sniff_king 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Criticizing the term's over use

You can't police overuse. Just disagree and move on.

By constantly handwringing about it every single time it comes up, you end up teaching people that that's the way you are supposed to react to this information. It becomes a thought terminating cliche. Somebody says nazi, and the first thing anyone else thinks about is "well, they're probably just being hyperbolic." You're reinforcing the same narrative.

Like, a good nazi accusation usually comes with an argument. "Such and such is a nazi because of these 6 things I saw them do, and they kicked a dog also," but even then, people will twist themselves into pretzels about whether the word is still "too much" or not. You have to cut them off. It's not relevant. It doesn't need to be given dignity as a criticism. It only serves as a distraction from the 6 points.

People do the exact same thing about the word genocide.

Think about it this way: an actual nazi benefits from these terms being muddy and unworkable, so our strategy cannot depend on clear waters; we will never get them.

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