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It is easy to disable, just follow this basic steps:
You can suceed in some cases, but it's not as simple, as just downloading privacy respecting app.
FOSS fanboys are so delusional they forget people don't even care for their weird apps. And if I remember correctly, Delta Chat is for XMPP
Not really, I like Delta Chat because the usability, no other app gave me the same peace of mind and reliability in bad connectivity areas (which I find myself often)
As for the family and friends that use it with me, they certainly don't use it because encryption and privacy, I don't even advertise the privacy and freedom much or try to make them uninstall whatever other apps they use for chatting, they use it because it is the way to reach me and it solves a problem for them.
And Delta Chat is not XMPP, at least for now
I use Delta Chat exclusively to chat with my family, I don't even have WhatsApp installed.
Delta Chat has most of the features you need for communication the only missing thing is integrated calls that cause the phone to ring, which is not a deal breaker for me since I don't call often, used the jitsi meet integration once with them was a bit messy to get my mom etc to figure out how to use jitsi meet in the browser while explaining via voice messages in Delta Chat, but I think adding integrated calls is in the roadmap
So it uses email as the underlying communication protocol? Does that mean you can use Delta Chat to message people who are themselves just sending and receiving emails? Or are Delta Chat messages only readable with the Delta Chat app?
My dad is steadfastly sticking with email while everyone else in the family is on WhatsApp. If I could use Delta Chat to chat with him while he still uses email, and likewise everyone else in the family, it could be a great way to start getting people off WhatsApp.
Yes you can, if you use an existing classic email account of yours with it, the anonymous free chatmail accounts can only be used with encryption, otherwise spammers could abuse the service
You will see the conversation as a chat while your dad will see it as normal replies to his emails
Cool, I've installed it so fingers crossed I'll be able to get some other family members onto it. Thanks for the info!
The app allows to easily add multiple profiles and switch between them, besides the classic email profile, you can tap in your avatar at the top left of the chat list and add a chat profile for secure encrypted chatting, and join a community group for testing and asking questions about delta chat:
https://i.delta.chat/#6A36794AF242B4E8B2EEAFBF9F2C9E97F60ED9B1=&a=stalebot1%40arcanechat.me&g=DC+Community&x=y6dS91dlLLi&i=oQN_awun1rp_0T23okfisYiE&s=fJNvhQvt7gEgmudKr9InVCln
Thanks, I've found that. So far I've created one of the built-in accounts (seems to be on the testrun.org domain) and added my own existing email. I sent a message to my dad using my email, let's see if I get any reply! Also curious to see what happens when I get other email such as marketing spam. I suppose each one will show up as a new chat.
Spam from the same address will appear as a single chat, and you can block the contact and never receive more spam from that address
Since spammers constantly change address you might what to tweak the "show classic email" option in Advanced settings, if you set it to "accepted contacts only" only classic email from contacts you have accepted a chat already will show up in Delta Chat so contact requests from new contacts will no show up, which is perfect if you only want your dad's messages to appear in the app
Though I understand your 4 point (and one point I was chewed here in Lemmy for pointing something like that on an opensource community), and I don't know this Delta app, what features would be missing from WhatsApp? Maybe video calls for sure, but I'd think stuff like "statuses", "channels" or this ai shit aren't really needed to communicate with someone
I mainly thought about voice/video calls, for many people they are fundamental features. You can add jitsi to your profile, but why would someone bother if, everything works out of the box in WhatsApp.
10/10 foreveralone experience
If you want to join a group:
https://i.delta.chat/#6A36794AF242B4E8B2EEAFBF9F2C9E97F60ED9B1=&a=stalebot1%40arcanechat.me&g=DC+Community&x=y6dS91dlLLi&i=oQN_awun1rp_0T23okfisYiE&s=fJNvhQvt7gEgmudKr9InVCln
@Comtief @adbenitez I think the best alternative to WhatsApp, which at least isn't META and is relatively secure, is Telegram. The rest are difficult to use because they have few users.
Yes I use telegram daily, but generally everyone here where i live uses Facebook messenger.
@Comtief Try switching to Telegram. Meta is never an option. Between them and Google, you'll never have privacy.
Dude are you OK?
@Comtief why?
i said I use telegram to which you replied i should switch to telegram. I swear half the people on this platform are high..
@Comtief Hahaha, sorry. I didn't read it correctly. English isn't my native language either. Cheers ๐๐ป
@dbencom @Comtief Telegram doesn't even offer E2EE by default, it's as worse as unencrypted RCS, and you share a lot of metadata with the company.
Signal, SimpleX, even XMPP+OMEMO and Delta Chat are way better than Telegram if we talk about privacy/security.
My personal experience: 121 chats (just my family account I have several other accounts)
Idk why you are showing me this. I guarantee you that anyone I know has never heard of this app.
To show you that it doesn't have to be a forever alone experience, in your case perhaps it will be, if you are the kind that have to run after the people close to you and accommodate to their requirements for them not to leave you behind and forgotten perhaps you are already alone...
I'm saying noone I communicate with in similar apps use Delta or whatever you call it. Idk how on earth your takeaway from this is that I wouldn't move away from the bigger apps when my point is the total opposite.
Yeah and they will not know it exist until you try it out and let them know about the app and help them try it out and get in contact with you.
Unlike WhatsApp that has millions to throw in marketing, come preinstalled on devices and by know "everyone uses it" other smaller projects that are not making money out of you need your help to do the "marketing" part
I don't know why you are telling me all this.
You wouldn't get it ๐ฌ
Delta is cool, wish more people used it
Not working with proton :/
Proton does not offer IMAP with their free plan. You need to pay to use some bullshit bridge to use IMAP.
That is a "they" issue, they don't allow to use their email server with your own email client of your choice which sucks, better use other email service. You don't need to use your email account tho, you can register without providing any information and it will automatically create a random anonymous email account for you, much better than the protonmail one, for free and without sending limits and with blazing FAST instant delivery