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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by TronBronson@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

It's nice to see the senate opposition functioning.

Edit: 18 hours of holding the senate floor, giving voice to the american people. Lots of tears as american suffering is read out loud for the congressional record. Testiment from Americans across the country. This is the voice of the people. Please click the link, share and watch. The media needs to know we care about the opposition more than we care about trump rambling on a plane about fort knox.

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

If it's lose/lose, why didn't they choose to lose with dignity instead of lose like cowards?

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

They should have. Dissent made them look weak. I’m just saying it wasn’t a simple choice to give up leverage that people seem to think it was.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

One of the Democrats' greater failures is the lack of a Party media infrastructure that they could use to control the narrative. Republicans have Fox and the right-wing media ecosystem, but Democrats never bothered to capture their own media to push their own message and agenda.

There are definitely friendly media groups, but they're not loyal. They just happen to agree with Democrats more than Republicans. If the government shut down they'd turn on Democrats.

Only one party has media control and so only one party controls the message. I have no doubt that Democrats would have failed to defend themselves if they voted against Republicans - but that speaks to their failure to make their own media more than the vote itself.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That’s true. I think I prefer it that way. If I could choose, I’d rather Fox and Truth Social didn’t exist over adding a left-wing loyalist media platform.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Okay, but Fox does exist and it's not going to be outlawed any time soon. Not having a response to Fox is liberal idealism.

It's one of the reasons we're in this situation.

Do you prefer Democrats being unable to fight back because any attempt to do so would be smeared by the media? It's not like corporate media is unbiased, they just aren't biased towards Democrats.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

That’s fair. I’d like to see a real progressive platform. A liberal bias would be too close to an MSNBC clone.

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It was a complex choice, and i tried to acknowledge all the outcomes as fast as possible. I do not have a congressional support staff, or access to polling. My decision came down to the times we are in. If the republicans move fast and break things, we can too. We can shut down the government and blame it on them, like they are doing with us.

Republicans are not master strategists, they are running the same scam they have been for 20 years. if we start breaking things and flooding the zone with real shit it would throw them off balance, and shake the faith of their base.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

It would have resulted in a mass termination of non-essential government workers that they would’ve blamed squarely on the Democrats. There was no clean way out of it.

This is a well thought out writeup on the consequences of the shutdown:

https://www.joshbarro.com/p/it-is-not-chuck-schumers-job-to-satisfy?triedRedirect=true

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I agree, but one of my biggest points im trying to get out in the world is we can't make decisions based on Optics we don't control. We need to control the optics, and the narrative. We do good things, we are not good at taking credit for them and helping voters understand them.

So we're always going to lose and the republicans are already blaming their recession on Biden.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Exactly why I make comments about accomplishments of Democrats. I point out their accomplishments because they don’t do it for themselves. I only like them more than Republicans. There’s plenty to criticize, but that’s taken care of by the masses.

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

If only we had the ego to label it all the infrastructure spending "THE BIDEN BRIDGE!!!!". Take the new BIDEN BRIDGE!!!!! to work today.

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