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[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 60 points 1 week ago

In the John version, he took a tree branch and his sandal and made a whip. Then he whipped the money changers until they ran out.

[-] egrets@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

I think you've read an embellished version re the branch and sandal, but it's a fun story. I've always wondered how we're meant to imagine it - were there no guards? Was he that fearsome that the marketeers didn't group together? Did he have backup, a crowd?

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago

Its not impossible that Jesus could have basically stirred up a riot that overwhelmed the Temple Guards, the smaller cadre of Jewish, religious guards dedicated to just maintaining order at the Temple, and managed to escape in the chaos.

Its... kind of implied, out right stated at various points in various gospels, that Jesus basically just has a massive, literal cult following of randos that just show up where he is, or follow him around, beyond the named disciples.

It doesn't take long after the temple shenanigans for Jesus to be betrayed by Judas, arrested by... either Roman guards, or a mix of Roman and Temple guards.

If there is any truth to the varying stories of Jesus life offered by the gospels, fucking up basically the most important public area in Jerusalem would absolutely be something the Roman garrison / prvosional government would crucify you for.

Local religious leaders complaining to their superiors about this Jesus troublemaker guy for months, hasn't really broken any serious laws the Romans actually care about ... and then he does that, now the Romans finally step in.

I may not have a totally historically accurate view here, but I think the Temple was specifically not guarded by Roman guards, as the Jews of the time would have viewed even their presence in the outer area as highly, highly sacrilegious, and instead the Temple itself had basically a small, local Temple guard outfit... sorta like the Vatican Guard in modern times, under the direct authority of the Pharisees.

Presumably the whole scene would have taken place in the 'Court of Gentiles', the rather large open space that is inside the outer Temple walls, but not inside the barrier, the Temple proper.

I'm not saying that this did for sure happen, but it does at least to me seem plausible.

[-] NightCreature@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Have you not heard of La Chancla?

[-] SoleInvictus 3 points 1 week ago

¿La Chancla Sagrada de Jesús?

[-] Moeverload@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

He whipped the sheep and cattle. Why would he whip the merchants?

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because Jesus did not like the idea of a Holy place being used for base commerce, and specifically for charging exorbitant currency conversion rates, as well as exorbitant rates for various animals such as doves, which were ritually sacrificed to atone for various sins.

The merchants in the outer court were... basically specifically permitted to operate there, authorized by the Pharisees, who in turn took their own cut.

Its... kind of similar to the rejection of indulgences during the later Protestant Reformation.

If you can only be free of sin or ritually cleansed by rituals that require fairly pricey things... and you are too poor to afford what is required for you to undergo that ritual, then you are basically paywalling your spirtual cleanliness, too poor to become right with God.

[-] 30p87@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

And those already savvy w/ AI translation tools, ofc

[-] Mim@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago
[-] 30p87@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

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