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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 74 points 3 days ago

The Democratic party is a party of cowards.

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

the democrats bravely tried to beat trump at the last election anyway they could

you've been campaigning against them the whole time and helped trump get elected

i guess that doesn't make you a coward, not sure what it does make you though

[-] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Yeah, bravely tried to beat Trump by ignoring their constituents, handwaving a genocide, kowtowing to corporate donors and trying to appeal to moderate Republicans who have been told non-stop for the past 40 years that Democrats are evil and out to destroy the country.

When your constituents want change and you campaign on keeping things the same, that's a colossal failure of party leadership, and it shouldn't be surprising that your voters will become disillusioned and stay home.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Since you don't know what it takes to win elections, keep it to yourself.

You have to decide between whatever brain-rot logic around electoralism has brought you to the place where you are and winning elections. You don't get to have both.

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

that's right between campaigning against the democrats and campaigning against trump you chose the democrats and helped trump win

it must have been such a hard choice between project 2025 and not-fascists

you must have been huffing so much putin propaganda you could barely see

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Which would you rather have?

Would you like the Democrat to have won the election, or do you want to be "correct" in your approach to politics?

You don't get to have both.

And to be clear: You aren't actually arguing with me. Its the 6 million Democrats who showed up for Biden, but who failed to be convinced by this approach to rhetoric.

So it all comes back to you. I made my case ad-naseum, begging Democrats to change their rhetoric, their approach to electoralism, because it was incredibly clear that the manner in which Democrats were campaigning and approaching the election would lose. People with a mental disorder interpret that argument as an attack on the Democratic candidate.

It would be great if I was wrong; if it was fine for Harris to have run, effectively as a rightwing canddiate, and have won the election. But she didn't win the election. I wasn't wrong in my analysis, before, during, and after, that the manner in which Harris was campaigning (and Biden before her) was going to lose the election.

If you take that as me making an argument against Harris, or for Trump, you should seek help with your mind.

It all comes down to you and a choice you still have available to you: Are you willing to change your mind such that we can get Democrats to win elections, or, are you more heavily invested in a deluded approach to electoralism, where you get to claim a form of psychological correctness, but can't win elections?

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

at least you admit you were campaigning against the democrats the whole time

you wanted trump sooo badly

as a socialist did you miss those great authoritarian times you get with trump and hamas

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

if these are the things you think, you are broken.

You are doing the job a of defeating the Democrats before there is even an election.

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