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[-] pipes@sh.itjust.works 39 points 4 days ago

Is it not possible that how something is made also elicits emotions and thoughts?

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Sure but I don't think it should be the line between garbage and good. It can add value and push the overall piece, but that isn't what the person is implying.

There are probably some really fine paper napkin art out there, and having it on a paper napkin most likely adds to it overall, but it's different then saying all paper napkin pieces have more value then all generated images.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 4 days ago

Some of us value authenticity. Plagiarism-powered hallucination engines have exactly none of that. The disturbed individual (or individuals) that painted the bathroom of my primary school with feces created something more artful than any AI slop could ever be.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Imagine arguing that flavor is what is important in a dish and not the type of knife used to cut the vegetables, and have someone respond he'd rather drink piss.

[-] kittenzrulz123 7 points 4 days ago

Its more like arguing a soulless robot should make your food built upon stolen recipes, not only are the recipes stolen but that robot cannot taste nor understand flavor. All it understands is the words of the recipes and sometimes not even that, it than needs to make new recipes without being able to taste it. Your food will taste as bland and souless as the robot who cannot taste it, even if it does taste good you'll know its basically just a worse version based on stolen recipes.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Bruh a "stolen" recipe made by a robot tastes exactly the same as a purchased recipe made by a human. "Love" is not actually a real ingredient in a meal.

And all things being equal... I would rather have a robot serve me than coerce some human.

[-] kittenzrulz123 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It simply is, premade and mass produced machine food simply doesn't taste as good as if you make it yourself (if you're decent at cooking)

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes but in this analogy, the Twitter user is saying burned toast is always better then the finest processed foods.

I will always attribute more value to human made images, just like I attribute more value to hand painted pieces compared to digitally painted pieces, but I dont attribute it disproportionately as to create two rigid categories.

I'm just saying broad sweeping statements don't make much sense and are an awful way to judge and consume art.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I mean I eat food made by a robot basically every day and it's pretty good.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

"Authenticity" is a myth. Everything is "plagarized". There's no major difference between someone creating art with a computer or with a paint bush.

The disturbed individual (or individuals) that painted the bathroom of my primary school with feces created something more artful than any AI slop could ever be.

Ok weirdo. Enjoy your literal poop!

[-] EldritchFeminity 4 points 3 days ago

There's no major difference between someone creating art with a computer or with a paint bush.

Good thing that this isn't what the argument has ever been about, then. This is the exact same tactic that "pro-lifers" use to reframe the argument about abortion and women's rights.

It's always been about the fact that the people who create the art used to train the AI aren't compensated for their work. The criticisms of the objective quality of Gen AI have always been about how people support the orphan crushing machine for such low quality garbage, and the OP isn't even about that.

Imagine if the Yankees started using a modified howitzer and fired their pitchers, and somebody said that they'd rather watch 8 year old kids play baseball than a game with the Yankees. That's what OP is talking about. AI bros and people like you would be arguing that the howitzer is the same as any other pitcher and that they just hate change.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Why does AI art have "no authenticity"?

[-] chocosoldier 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

its like if i chewed up a bite of three different dishes and spit it out on your plate. did i make a new dish? c'mon, don't turn your nose up at it because of how it was made, appreciate it, it's totally original and not any of those things i chewed up together, really!

now imagine i went up the block trying each doorknob, and took the food from the houses that were unlocked and chewed all that up and spit it on your plate. did i cook you dinner? or did i steal shit chew it up spit it out and insist it's different and therefore mine now? thats what fcking ai "art" is.

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