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[-] ConsciousCode@beehaw.org 17 points 2 years ago

Reading the article makes my blood run cold and starting to think about moving to Europe, and I'm not even that marginalized. White, male, gay, mostly cis. But then, if the US withdraws from NATO won't Russia run amok in Europe? Is this WWIII?

[-] Cylinsier@beehaw.org 31 points 2 years ago

The US is far too large and powerful a nation to hide from. The consequences of four more years of Trump climate policy alone will find you anywhere on this planet. You cannot run away from the fallout of a second Trump term just by moving to a different continent. Only choice is to stay and help the fight against it.

[-] yiliu@informis.land 11 points 2 years ago

There's a lot to worry about from a second Trump presidency, but Russia running amok in Europe isn't one of them. They're having enough trouble running amok on the eastern fringes of Ukraine.

[-] ConsciousCode@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago

Isn't a large part of their trouble that NATO is supplying Ukraine?

[-] yiliu@informis.land 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They didn't start that until the war was well underway, and Russia was already stopped in it's tracks.

Also: much of that hardware is coming from Europe, not the US. Also: if NATO disbanded, Europe would have to ramp up military spending: Trump's big complaint was that France and Germany aren't carrying their weight.

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