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[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 2 weeks ago

Thafuq you think the prison system is?

[-] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 21 points 2 weeks ago

But these are bad people, they deserve it. Some people even smoked weed while being black.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Clearly, it's always been their fault doing anything at all while black. 🥲🤢

[-] tree_frog@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

It is the commodification of human lives via confinement. Which is horrible and fucked up, but it's not slavery. We are headed for that though.

That's what the work camps are code for.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Not slavery? Don't be obtuse. That same commodification via containment is only a part of the greater system of human labor as livestock — which also includes slavery, TBF. Splitting those hairs is either naive or apologetic, and the stark reality of it all DGAF if you understand that. Hell, they're counting on it.

[-] tree_frog@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I did 3 years in prison.

It was fucking rough but it's nothing compared to what has been and what is coming.

And I'm not defending the prison system, the commodification of human lives in any form is fucking exploitive and horrible and prison is definitely one of the worst forms of it. But slavery is much much worse and that is what is coming.

Like if you want to accuse someone of being obtuse, you are comparing people getting beat if they don't pick cotton, with folks who are watching TV laying around in their bunk all day. It's depressing, and it's lonely and dehumanizing. But I would take it any day of the week over what folks have lived through under slavery.

Slavery is a huge fucking escalation of violence on the working class. And I absolutely believe it is on the way. So I'm not minimizing.

Okay?

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

First off, I apologize for my brusk tone. I'm sorry you had to experience that first-hand, and we have that in common. It's not something I often talk about (I can count on one hand, in the last 20+ years since), but I want you to know that I hear you.

If anyone was obtuse, it was me for failing to clarify that the prison system==slavery I was referring to is the forced labor of our incarcerated that was literally written into the 13th Amendment and infallible proof that slavery as we're taught never ended.

[-] tree_frog@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

I hear you about the 13th, it's definitely slavery light and a continuation of white supremacy.

Most of the commodification and extraction from inmates comes through the commissary and phone monopoly system. So they extract from families mostly. And of course through taxes on the working class . Prison labor is a thing and the wages are absolutely shit. But I did not see any forced labor in my time that I was incarcerated.

Of course this will vary by state. And county jails are a whole other fucking issue because the stay is shorter, so the protections are often worse .

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