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[-] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 38 points 6 days ago

Because it is controlled by the Houthis, Islamist terrorists threatening global trade, overthrowing a quasi-friendly government and REINSTITUTING SLAVERY.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 39 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The United States government just sold over 200 people, without trial, into slavery in El Salvador. And the US explicitly allows slavery as part of its own prison system. The US has a large number of legal slaves.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 16 points 6 days ago

I don't think people understand just how fucking MASSIVE that bullshit is. Any credibility that the US had in human rights is long gone.

What turn is doing is what the original filibusters did prior to the civil war. Basically considering chattel slavery such an important part of their 'liberty' ideal that they wanted to spread it to places where slavery had been abolished. Like the carribbean and Central America.

[-] ultranaut@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Yes, and how does that justify anything? I don't understand this logic at all, the US being bad doesn't make the Houthi slavers good. Slavery is wrong regardless of who does it.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

It doesn't justify anything. What it does do is point out the absurdity of arguing that the Huthis deserved to be bombed due to slavery. If they deserve to be bombed, so do we.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 20 points 6 days ago

They overthrew Gaddafi when he was the only thing preventing slavery from returning, and the allies of the West now have open slave markets in Libya.

[-] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago
[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 11 points 6 days ago

The point: they do not give a fuck about slavery. They are in support of it.

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[-] smol_beans@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

Houthis did not reinstate slavery. The "legitimate" Yemeni government that the Houthis are rebelling against reinstituted slavery

[-] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

Incorrect. While the ousted government often overlooked slavery due to corruption, the Houthis have expanded as part of their interpretation of the Quran, one shared by other nutbags like Boko Haram and Daesh.

https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/yemen/

[-] smol_beans@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

I'm sure the pro-genocide us state department wouldn't lie

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[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

From the US State Department report:

Media reports referencing muhamasheen activists noted that while social castes and slavery were abolished in the 1960s, tribal justice systems reinforced historical patterns of discrimination. The most recent estimated number of victims of modern slavery in country remained the 2018 report by Walk Free, an NGO focused on ending modern slavery. Walk Free estimated there were 85,000 victims of modern slavery in the country, or 3.1 percent of the population, but that due to the impossibility of conducting surveys under conflict, data likely underestimated the problem. This broad category included forced labor and debt bondage, human trafficking, and forced and early marriage.

This is the Walk Free report mentioned, it's referencing modern-day slavery and how vulnerable the population of Yemen is, the main being political instability. That same article shows Saudi Arabia as having over 4 times per capita more modern day slaves.

The only other article that mentions Slavery under the Houthis is Al-Awsat which is a state propaganda newspaper working at the behest of the Saudi Royal Family.

There is no mention of slavery in the 2024 HRW Report Or 2023 Amnesty Report

The Saudi puppet government that did institute slavery are what the Houthis fought and won against, and continue to face a US-Saudi genocide because of it. It'd certainly help to reduce modern day slavery if the entire population of Yemen wasn't facing a genocide.

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Guterres put the crisis in stark perspective, emphasizing the near complete lack of security for the Yemeni people. More than 22 million people out of a total population of 28 million are in need of humanitarian aid and protection. Eighteen million people lack reliable access to food; 8.4 million people “do not know how they will obtain their next meal.”

Besides Saudi Arabia, the coalition attacking Yemen includes the United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Morocco, Jordan, Sudan, Kuwait and Bahrain. Qatar was part of the coalition but is no longer.

Based on the information available to it using open sources, YDP reports that two-thirds of the coalition’s bombing attacks have been against non-military and unknown targets. The coalition isn’t accidentally attacking civilians and civilian infrastructure – it’s doing it deliberately.

The air and naval blockade, in effect since March 2015, “is essentially using the threat of starvation as a bargaining tool and an instrument of war,” according to the UN panel of experts on Yemen.

The coalition’s genocide in Yemen would not be possible without the complicity of the U.S. This has been a bipartisan presidential effort, covering both the Obama and Trump administrations.

U.S. arms are being used to kill Yemenis and destroy their country. In 2016, well after the coalition began its genocidal assault on Yemen, four of the top five recipients of U.S. arms sales were members of the coalition.

The U.S. has also provided the coalition with logistical support, including mid-air refueling, targeting advice and support, intelligence, expedited munitions resupply and maintenance.

As of February 2018, according to the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, the coalition had killed 6,000 people in airstrikes and wounded nearly 10,000 more.

Yet, according to the OHCHR report, these counts are conservative. Tens of thousands of Yemenis have also died from causes related to the war. According to Save the Children, an estimated 85,000 children under five may have died since 2015, with more than 50,000 child deaths in 2017 alone from hunger and related causes.

US complicity in the Saudi-led genocide in Yemen spans Obama, Trump administrations

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 days ago

They're not threatening global trade, they're fulfilling their obligation under international law to prevent genocide by blocking ships of countries that are aiding genocide.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

What lead them to be on position to be able to do such a thing?

Who helped to stabilise the previous gov & infrastructure (hospitals) ... and stopped overnight destabilising the country early pre-covid?

[-] 0xD@infosec.pub 7 points 6 days ago

That is a different topic not relevant for the current discission.

[-] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

I don't know, but I presume the answer is us.

But that doesn't mean it is at all reasonable to just let them shoot at our boats and, I reiterate, REINSTITUTE SLAVERY.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago
[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Not everyone's boats, just the ones of countries facilitating genocide, as they are obligated to under international law. They're not touching Chinese boats, Iranian boats, Turkish boats, etc.

[-] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

Boats marked with a specific country are not strictly captained, crewed, or even owned by individuals from that country.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago

They aren't targeting boats based on their flags, nor their captain, nor their crew, nor their ownership, but based on their connection to Israel.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

They are targeting indiscriminately. You might hear otherwise from their statements, but the reality is they don't seem to have capacity to distinguish

Edit: this has happened numerous times and there is plenty of evidence. Sorry it's your heroes commiting atrocities

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[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago

The houthis aren't exactly the best representatives of the movement but still, this issue would be better solved by stopping arms shipments to israel and pushing them to a ceasefire towards a permanent peace. The houthis have shown that they will stop there attacks when the bombs stop dropping on gaza with this last ceasefire.

These strikes don't do shit besides hardening the antagonism against the west in Yemen. Ask Saudi Arabia, you can't take out the houthis with bombs. This is just a way for trump to flex his arms and act like a tough guy.

[-] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

I do not trust murderous terrorist slavers to keep their word. And even if I did, the mere fact that there are attacking our people is more than justification enough to blow them to Hell.

[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago

That doesn't solve the issue, you blow up one terrorist and five civilians then the brothers/fathers of those five civilians become terrorists. The only thing blowing them up does, besides making the leaders and the people of the u.s. feel tough, is enrich the weapons industry.

We bombed Afghanistan for more then a decade and the taliban still control Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia bombed the houthis for years and they now control Yemen, Israel has leveled gaza and hamas is still in control.

YOU CANT BOMB AWAY TERRORISTS.

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[-] lorty@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

Ah yes, the moderate "kill them all" approach

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