[Satire] Nation exhausted by election that hasn’t even been f***ing called yet (chaser.com.au)

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A deeply divided Australia has found common ground in a shared feeling of complete exhaustion brought on by the federal election, before its even been fucking called.

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[-] princessnorah 3 points 4 days ago

I don't really see it as a preference issue. Greens are likely to lose their Queensland seats at the coming election, but they have a good chance of winning Melbourne Ports, Cooper and Wills in Victoria. Four seats is a lot of bargaining power if both parties fall short of a majority.

My hope is actually that the Liberals, in those three seats, preference Greens over Labor to try and pull some seats away from them. Their preferences alone would handily get Greens over the line.

[-] Nath@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago

I don’t really see it as a preference issue.

Just about every election (well, not at the moment in WA ha!) comes down to preferences.

Their preferences alone would handily get Greens over the line.

See? You actually agree that preferences make a big difference. The issue is that the Liberal party would prefer to see a Labor candidate in a seat over a Green party member. So, if they saw a possibility that the Greens might take a seat, they wouldn't give Green their preferences.

The biggest problem I see for the Greens is that Labor has no incentive to actually court Green preferences. They assume Greens will always preference them over Liberal, because they always have. They can take those preferences for granted.

[-] judasferret@aussie.zone 3 points 3 days ago

Y'all know the voter sets the preferences on their ballet, not the party right?

[-] Nath@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Of course I do. 😀
But the parties give out those "how to vote" cards at every ballot point for a reason: most voters use them. Which means that the party does set the preferences.

[-] princessnorah 1 points 3 days ago

You still changed the topics from seats won and forming a minority government, to preferences and whether Greens vote total will help Labor win the election. It's not a gotcha that I mentioned preferences when you are the one that brought it up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The biggest problem I see for the Greens is that Labor has no incentive to actually court Green preferences. They assume Greens will always preference them over Liberal, because they always have. They can take those preferences for granted.

This is completely irrelevant in seats where the two party preferred comes down to Greens vs Labor. Which is what I was talking about.