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Time to break free of traditional political ideological labeling and divisions. Time to abandon old, divisive sociopolitical labels like "liberal" and "conservative".
A new political party based on a vastly, commonly held virtures lends itself to embrace over 66% of Americans, and it clearly embraces progressive principled thinking. In the most ideal American sense of unity, a political party should not be able to be defined or placed as "to the left" or "to the right" of where the Democratic or Republican parties currently are. Just let it exist organically based on present-day principled thinking. The American Progressive Majority.
Originally Posted By u/Atlanticbboy At 2025-03-23 04:38:18 AM | Source
I agree with every single one of those except for the taking away my guns part. The second amendment is vitally important for the exact reason of what we are going through right now: the overtaking of the US government by oppressive fascists.
It doesn't say anything about taking away guns. It says gun control laws. These often include things like a waiting period to purchase a gun if you don't have your concealed weapons license. Or bans on people owning guns if they have previous convictions for assault/battery.
The first they try to do to prevent crimes of passion. Basically if someone finds out their spouse is cheating on them and they find out, they don't walk into a pawn shop, walk out immediately with a gun go shoot the person they cheated with, their spouse and then themselves. Instead the hope is that they walk into the pawn store, buy the gun, they tell them they can come back in 5 days and pick it up. And hopefully in 5 days they will have calmed down enough they have found a better way to deal with the situation. States like Florida had these rules for handguns because they are easier to conceal while shotguns and rifles you could walk out with same day. Desantis I believe changed the gun laws recently though, so idk what they are anymore. I've bought guns in Florida and Tennessee, and I always thought laws like that were reasonable.
I mean realistically what is you owning a gun gonna do against a drone strike or whatever other tech the military has? The only way a revolution happens in the modern day is if the military lets it. I can definitely see the value in guns for protection against paramilitary groups trying to go after people but beyond that guns aren't gonna stop the US government from doing fascist stuff if the military is on their side.
Edit: Also at a certain point if you're actively fighting and resisting against the government getting access to guns even if they are illegal isn't gonna be the biggest problem you have.
Could I get the right to bear nukes?
If you become powerful enough to have them, and get them, you have given yourself the right to have them.
guerilla warfare is still helped by having weapons and is probably still somewhat effective against a military that doesn't want indiscriminate slaughter of civilians.
I mean I would make an argument that it's a lot easier to convince soldiers to shoot down civilians if they're armed versus unarmed. So while it might help with guerilla resistance it most likely wouldnt really help towards the ultimate goal of overthrowing a fascist regime.
Americans would not be fighting alone in such a case.
Untrained unequipped combatants in the Middle East have killed over 20,000 US soldiers in the last 25 years so not sure your point stands
And yet at least in Afghanistan the US propped up government wasn't overthrown until the US military left. Like I said in another comment you can do damage but you're not gonna successfully overthrow the government unless you get the military to defect or let you do it. Combine this with the other points I made that even if guns are illegal you can definitely still acquire them and that gun control is the only way we can combat mass shootings and gun violence and I don't see the positives from being able to own guns outweighing the negatives.
How did Afghanistan turn out?
You're going to hand over your guns without making a fuss the microsecond that the gestapo knock on your door, and you know it.
The liberal gestapo or the conservative one?
Yes
Absolutely officer, that's all the guns.
And yet, from outside USA looking in, I can clearly see that the moment has come and passed without a single gun owner doing anything. Keep polishing I guess.
From the inside looking out I’d say everyone is still in disbelief and denial that things are as bad as they truly are and that is the reason for the lack of action. And I don’t think it’s too late.
I’m rooting for you.