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Canada’s largest Muslim organisation is outraged over a bill introduced by the Quebec government that would ban headscarves for school support staff and students.

“In Quebec, we made the decision that state and the religion are separate,” said Education Minister Bernard Drainville, CBC News reported. “And today, we say the public schools are separate from religion.”

But the National Council of Canadian Muslims (NCCM), who are challenging in the Supreme Court the original bill that forbids religious symbols being worn by teachers, say the new bill is another infringement on their rights and unfairly targets hijab-wearing Muslims.

“This renewed attack on the fundamental rights of our community is just one of several recent actions taken by this historically unpopular government to bolster their poll numbers by attacking the rights of Muslim Canadians,” the NCCM said in a social media post.

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[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Secularism is forced atheism now?

Who are you to force women to wear less clothes?

[-] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago

There are reasons for banning hijabs, it’s widely known that it’s a form of oppression against women. Just because some say they wear it voluntarily, doesn’t mean it applies to most.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

You appear to be an expert on this. Surely you have conversed with many of these women and have not received all your knowledge from racist media figures.

[-] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

I have received my knowledge from going to school where there is probably 15% Muslims in there. And I heard some of them complain about not only hijabs but in general not being allowed to do certain things.

This is a free world (the west) and should not condone such „culture“.

[-] small44@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago
[-] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago
[-] small44@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Some people killed a person they love because of rejection so let's ban relationships and love

[-] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

This argument is dumb and you know it. Please don’t hit me with these low effort rebuttals.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

I am sure you have. I can hear the racism dripping on your keyboard.

[-] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago

It‘s probably a shock to you, but I’m not living in Canada, I currently live in Germany (just because this is the Canada „sub“ doesn’t mean everyone who is active here lives in Canada right now) and needy Muslims and also the oppression of Muslim women is quite the hot topic/issue over here.

Are French nazis? Are (modern) Germans nazis? For banning full face coverage for example? Where do we draw the line?

If I move somewhere, I fucking assimilate. End of story.

[-] small44@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

You live in germany, who is the second biggest supporter of the terrorist state of israel occupying paledtine for 58 years

[-] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

I couldn’t give two fucks about Middle East, or Israel, Gaza.

I just want to live my life in Germany. Without Muslims constantly demanding things. Name me one needier religious group. They’re never happy.

I’m not German. Just because I live here doesn’t mean I’m born here. And I adapted and get along quite well. German people are by far the most open-armed people I’ve ever met. They hate actually nobody unless you piss them off.

[-] small44@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

I couldn’t give two fucks about Middle East, or Israel, Gaza.

Shows your complete lack of morality

Name me one needier religious group.

I am sure it's a minority just like muslims supporting rights suppression but many zionists demand to ban the fundamental right to protest because they feel "uncomfortable"

[-] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago

Has nothing to do with morality. We have our own problems no matter where we live. Why do I need to care about Palestine for example?

We have a literal war in Europe right now. I feel bad for innocent civilians in Gaza. But we have more pressing issues right next door. So honestly yes, I couldn’t care less. I care about our own shit first and foremost, which is logical. To me. But probably it makes me literally Hitler.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Extremely Islamophobic and racist comments

"This might come as a shock but I live in Germany"

I am quite unshocked.

[-] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

How is this Islamophobia? Thats exactly what I’m talking about. Everything is apparently Islamophobia. How about it’s just criticism?

I have nothing against Islam. But like all other religions, I want it out of my day to day life and for people to practice it AT HOME.

Also… how is Islam a race?

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

If people wearing a piece of cloth is enough for you to say they should be deported and you do not think there is anything wrong with it you are quite far gone.

[-] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Can you please highlight or quote where I asked for deportation?

There’s a difference between asking for basic respect and asking for deportation.

Maybe you are too far gone.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago
[-] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

Yeah, that’s not a call for deportation tho. I’m just stating that if this country ain’t for you, then go away.

Deportation would be… well. Being taken away by law enforcement. All I’m saying is that you shouldn’t move to a place and then ask THEM to assimilate to YOUR culture, religion, whatever.

It’s still a difference.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You would forbid women who want to wear headscarves from going to school then?

Or would you forcibly make them go to school and the rip off their headscarf?

Please clarify how you are willing to force your preference of female clothing on women.

[-] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yes. Because men are not allowed to wear caps at school either. It’s called equality. One of the wests core values.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Weird when I look at Palestine it appears racism, hypocrisy and genocide are the western core values.

Let men wear caps then everyone is happy.

[-] small44@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

People could be manipulated by emotions to do the worse things ever should we ban expressing emotions?

[-] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

I mean, we do ban some emotions.

I couldn’t just go outside and let the rage out. Destroying things and punching people. I mean, I could… but I would have to deal with what? Yes. Consequences.

[-] small44@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

We never banned emotions with ban certain actions or hate speech. We can hate anyone we want but we can't harm them or disrespect them with actions or words

[-] DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

Dude I agree with you to some extent. I am looking like this massive aushole right now that hated everyone. But all I really wanted is for religion and public institutions to be separate. And so how is banning hijabs (a religious symbol) from government institutions a bad thing?

[-] small44@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Nobody is going to convert to Islam just because a teacher or student wear a hijab but you can't forcing people who want to wear it not to do it. This is the completely opposite of separation of religion and state. How you going to also ban the symbols of the other thousands of unknown religion. How would you know the person who grow a beard for a religious reason or just because it look nice on him?

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

You emphasize "some" but do we have any data and real numbers?

Genuine curiosity, while recognizing this is hard to measure as a lot of oppression can be internalized.

It's not an easy discussion (and that's fine).

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