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submitted 11 hours ago by Blaze@feddit.nl to c/buyeuropean@feddit.uk

cross-posted from: https://europe.pub/post/7501

What European email services do you use?

Please recommend other interesting email services by your experience.

I have switched from Google's Gmail to ProtonMail and kMail. I really like both, kMail (by Infomaniak) have very similar app interface to Gmail so you will get used to it very fast and also have big storage for free and very good offers for paid plans 👍🏼

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[-] rooroo@feddit.org 131 points 11 hours ago

Fuck Proton and their Trumps-ass-kissing CEO though.

[-] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 hours ago

yes, one comment saying that republicans do one thing right means exactly what you wrote

[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Here's the actual tweet so you can see it for yourself

He did praise Trump and platform him, then he praised the Republican party saying they are the party of "the little guys" (small business), which is just flat out wrong. He does not acknowledge that there are an abundance of things Trump is doing that is fucking awful and disgusting. At best it's an extremely tone-deaf tweet.

What that comment does is paint Trump and the Republican party in a very good light and ignores other things they do that are terrible, illegal, and much more important than a single cherry-picked action. That's effectively an endorsement (i.e. ass-kissing) without saying it in exact words.

Also, it's so very obvious that anyone associated with Trump absolutely needs to abide by Trump's every whim or else he will replace you. So, the point he was trying to make is entirely moot in the first place.

There is just no way to praise Trump or the Republican party without showing your ignorance or alignment with them. Just like you can't just have a little bit of shit in your food. Once you've got even a little bit of shit in your food, then you've got shit-food. Or, in this case, a Trump-shit stained CEO's mouth.

[-] ExplosiveLynx@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago

It's one more than I'd like.

[-] professionalspooner@feddit.org 22 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Here! I found the American bot.

Proton is a perfectly good alternative. Encrypted and European based. Also one of the easiest User Experiences for those moving out of Gmail.

This kind of nonsense just creates confusion and leads to people sticking with Gmail/Google

Edit: the bots also vote. Yay

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago

Is "bot" now the new "NPC" for morons?

[-] verdigris@lemmy.ml 76 points 9 hours ago

Why did you completely ignore the content of the comment? You're the one sounding like a bot here.

[-] professionalspooner@feddit.org 9 points 9 hours ago

Because the content of the comment has been addressed multiple times in threads like this. As with everything, the world is not black and white.

This thread and comment on Reddit do a better job on addressing the comment (sorry for linking for Reddit)

https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/s/nfKrbQtYZt

We know Trump for over a decade now. I don't buy this apologist approach to excusing the shitty behavior of people in the spotlight. If you have half a brain you know by now what type of person Trump is and from a CEO I expect more then half a brain.

Regardless, Proton products are a better choice then Google.

[-] Jonas@mastodon.nl 29 points 9 hours ago

@professionalspooner @verdigris @buyeuropean people are entitled to their opinion though. If they don't want a product because of it's CEO, that's totally fine

[-] ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

E.g.: see Tesla nowadays.

[-] Comtief@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago

Yeah but if they spread misinformation about the CEO, it can be called out

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago

Why not explain yourself here? I don't want to give Spez the traffic

[-] professionalspooner@feddit.org 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I am sorry. I would never make it justice to the whole discussion.

Here's a troddit link which I just learned that exists andis open source.

https://www.troddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1ixywld/lets_settle_the_debate_proton_ceo_is_not_protrump

I hope that's helpful.

[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I would never make it justice to the whole discussion

Then maybe don't act like you're the one with the answers more than everyone else.

Calling someone a "bot" doesn't refute anything. It's just a childish response because you disagree. While you also seem to be unable to explain this stance for yourself. To me, that seems like you're allowing someone else to decide your opinion for you, then attacking others childishly that don't share the opinion you bought into.

[-] Tm12@lemmy.ca 24 points 9 hours ago

I don’t like what you’re saying. You must be a bot!

[-] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 20 points 10 hours ago

Explain please.

[-] exchange12rocks@lemm.ee 12 points 9 hours ago

I'm sorry, but they are an even more closed ecosystem than even Gmail: one cannot use a regular email client with Proton

[-] Jonas@mastodon.nl 8 points 9 hours ago

@exchange12rocks @professionalspooner @buyeuropean AFAIK with a paid subscription you can set up a bridge which would allow you to use it with Thunderbird etc

[-] exchange12rocks@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

I didn't know about the bridge, thank you!

[-] professionalspooner@feddit.org 3 points 9 hours ago

Yes! That sucks.

From what I understand, that's their way to do e2e encryption between proton emails. They have this bridge thing, which unfortunately you can't use on free plans.

Proton Mail Bridge is a desktop application that runs in the background, encrypting and decrypting messages as they enter and leave your computer. It lets you add your Proton Mail account to your favorite email client via IMAP/SMTP by creating a local email server on your computer.

https://proton.me/mail/bridge


I agree that this is a problem, and that it is worse than Google.

But for me personally, putting it all on a scale I still think it is better than having your emails mined for ads targeting.

[-] exchange12rocks@lemm.ee 1 points 7 hours ago

Thank you for the explanation - didn't know about the bridge 👍

[-] kurwa@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago

You're the only bot here bud

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