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European alternatives to Google's Gmail (europe.pub)

submitted 8 hours ago by Blaze@feddit.nl to c/buyeuropean@feddit.uk

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cross-posted from: https://europe.pub/post/7501

What European email services do you use?

Please recommend other interesting email services by your experience.

I have switched from Google's Gmail to ProtonMail and kMail. I really like both, kMail (by Infomaniak) have very similar app interface to Gmail so you will get used to it very fast and also have big storage for free and very good offers for paid plans 👍🏼

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[-] adbenitez@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

If what you want is encrypted email, and see it in the form of a chat, take a look at ArcaneChat

[-] dumblederp@aussie.zone 1 points 40 minutes ago

Thanks for the list

[-] bluelander@lemmy.ml 1 points 48 minutes ago

Runbox.com! I've been using them for years after Lavabit was shutdown. Based out of Norway, affordable, and privacy focused.

[-] GingerBear@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

I tried

Proton - too expensive
Tuta - too limited
infomaniak - i like it, but also limited

Created new domain name in cloudflare and got free account at zoho. It's free badic account, but with a symbolic gesture of 0.9 euro a month, you also get smtp, IMAP etc... and it plays very well with cloudflare!

[-] picklejar@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 hour ago

I've been happy with Belgian based mailfence.com for 4+ years on one of their paid plans.

[-] treno_rosso@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago

I use eclipso.de. it's free with ads or i think 1€ a month premium

[-] EuropeanMade@feddit.uk 2 points 2 hours ago

I have an e-mail adres with my domain name, but my personal mail is still Gmail. However I'm looking into changing that. I'm thinking about proton mail but I'm not sure yet. I'm trying to do research into what's best long term.

[-] GreatBlue@infosec.pub 6 points 3 hours ago

mailbox.org has a web app, so no need for a client app.
And Posteo also supports POP3, IMAP and SMTP, so you can use every mail client with support for it.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago

Proton, no thanks to the Government of Putin supporters. Tuta could be the winner for me.

[-] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 hours ago

Switzerland supports putin?

[-] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Switzerland supports putin?

I dunno man, Wikipedia says otherwise.

The country has a history of armed neutralitygoing back to the Reformation; it has not been in a state of war internationally since 1815[5][6] apart from the Sonderbund War(Switzerland civil war), joining the League of Nations in 1920[5] and did not join the United Nations until 2002.[7] It pursues an active foreign policy and is frequently involved in peace-building processes around the world.[8][9]

On February 28, 2022, Switzerland imposed economic sanctions on Russia and froze a significant amount of assets held by Russian civilians and companies as "punishment" for the invasion of Ukraine. Some described this as "a sharp deviation from the country's traditional neutrality."[10] According to Swiss president Ignazio Cassis in 2022 during a World Economic Forum speech, the laws of neutrality for Switzerland are based on The Hague agreement principles which include "no participation in wars; international cooperation but no membership in any military alliance; no provision of troops or weapons to warring parties and no granting of transition rights".[11

[-] rooroo@feddit.org 117 points 7 hours ago

Fuck Proton and their Trumps-ass-kissing CEO though.

[-] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago

yes, one comment saying that republicans do one thing right means exactly what you wrote

[-] ExplosiveLynx@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago

It's one more than I'd like.

[-] professionalspooner@feddit.org 22 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Here! I found the American bot.

Proton is a perfectly good alternative. Encrypted and European based. Also one of the easiest User Experiences for those moving out of Gmail.

This kind of nonsense just creates confusion and leads to people sticking with Gmail/Google

Edit: the bots also vote. Yay

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago

Is "bot" now the new "NPC" for morons?

[-] verdigris@lemmy.ml 68 points 6 hours ago

Why did you completely ignore the content of the comment? You're the one sounding like a bot here.

[-] professionalspooner@feddit.org 9 points 6 hours ago

Because the content of the comment has been addressed multiple times in threads like this. As with everything, the world is not black and white.

This thread and comment on Reddit do a better job on addressing the comment (sorry for linking for Reddit)

https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/s/nfKrbQtYZt

We know Trump for over a decade now. I don't buy this apologist approach to excusing the shitty behavior of people in the spotlight. If you have half a brain you know by now what type of person Trump is and from a CEO I expect more then half a brain.

Regardless, Proton products are a better choice then Google.

[-] Jonas@mastodon.nl 26 points 6 hours ago

@professionalspooner @verdigris @buyeuropean people are entitled to their opinion though. If they don't want a product because of it's CEO, that's totally fine

[-] Comtief@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago

Yeah but if they spread misinformation about the CEO, it can be called out

[-] ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

E.g.: see Tesla nowadays.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago

Why not explain yourself here? I don't want to give Spez the traffic

[-] professionalspooner@feddit.org 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I am sorry. I would never make it justice to the whole discussion.

Here's a troddit link which I just learned that exists andis open source.

https://www.troddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1ixywld/lets_settle_the_debate_proton_ceo_is_not_protrump

I hope that's helpful.

[-] Tm12@lemmy.ca 22 points 6 hours ago

I don’t like what you’re saying. You must be a bot!

[-] exchange12rocks@lemm.ee 12 points 5 hours ago

I'm sorry, but they are an even more closed ecosystem than even Gmail: one cannot use a regular email client with Proton

[-] Jonas@mastodon.nl 8 points 5 hours ago

@exchange12rocks @professionalspooner @buyeuropean AFAIK with a paid subscription you can set up a bridge which would allow you to use it with Thunderbird etc

[-] exchange12rocks@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

I didn't know about the bridge, thank you!

[-] professionalspooner@feddit.org 3 points 5 hours ago

Yes! That sucks.

From what I understand, that's their way to do e2e encryption between proton emails. They have this bridge thing, which unfortunately you can't use on free plans.

Proton Mail Bridge is a desktop application that runs in the background, encrypting and decrypting messages as they enter and leave your computer. It lets you add your Proton Mail account to your favorite email client via IMAP/SMTP by creating a local email server on your computer.

https://proton.me/mail/bridge

I agree that this is a problem, and that it is worse than Google.

But for me personally, putting it all on a scale I still think it is better than having your emails mined for ads targeting.

[-] exchange12rocks@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Thank you for the explanation - didn't know about the bridge 👍

[-] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 19 points 6 hours ago

Explain please.

[-] kurwa@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago

You're the only bot here bud

[-] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

Buy a domain and just use a ISP of your choice, don't lock in again with another domain not under your control.

[-] pedz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Although depending on your configuration, it might be a battle against spammers.

[-] easily3667@lemmus.org 13 points 6 hours ago

No Nazi supporters please

[-] matelt@feddit.uk 12 points 6 hours ago

I switched over to Proton a few weeks ago, so far so good. They had my name available so no more weird convoluted email address anymore yay!

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I would highly recommend buying a domain name and use that for email, will be a lot less pain if you have to change provider again

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 22 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Oh nice hadn't heard of KMail and I'm trying to degoogle. Proton's fine but the owner is another tool so options are nice

Oh it's KDE even better

[-] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 19 points 7 hours ago

KMail is not a service by KDE, you probably confused it with KMail, the mail client by KDE. It's a service by Infomaniak.

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Thanks for clarifying! I'm new ~~

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[-] rooroo@feddit.org 18 points 7 hours ago

You don’t need a client app for mailbox.org? I use it just fine on any standard mail client.

[-] anguo@lemmy.ca 13 points 7 hours ago

That's what they mean, it doesn't have its own client.

[-] FatLegTed@piefed.social 15 points 7 hours ago

Proton

[-] Lasagna@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 hours ago

Same.

Getting a bit tired of the brigading against Proton. IMO the negativity is overblown and Proton is still a good option.

But do recommend everyone to get a custom domain so it’s easy to switch in case I’m proven wrong and Proton does turn sour.

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[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Disroot is based in the netherlands i believe.

https://disroot.org/en

From their page:

“Disroot is a platform providing online services based on principles of freedom, privacy, federation and decentralization.

No tracking, no ads, no profiling, no data mining!”

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